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Old September 17th 11, 11:23 PM posted to uk.railway,misc.transport.urban-transit,uk.transport.london
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Default WCML classic service after HS2

On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 07:44:04 -0700 (PDT), 77002
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On Sep 17, 7:39*am, "Peter Masson" wrote:
"Andy Breen" wrote in message

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On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 15:21:58 +0100, Peter Masson wrote:


"allantracy" wrote


The future for cars looks very bleak unless they can be persuaded to
run on electricity.


Though there was a steam car around a while ago how ironic would that
be?


Battery technology can never be made efficient,


Define the meaning you are picking for "efficient" in this context..


so even with nuclear or
other renewable generation of electricity, battery cars can never be
made efficient.


See above. What do you mean by this? Cost? Energy density? Charge cycling
efficiency? Lifespan? Charging time?


charge cycle efficiency. The other issues can in principle be overcome, but
the laws of physics will not let you charge and discharge a battery without
significant energy losses.


Are there not also weight, and size issues with batteries. Gasoline/
petrolium is fairly light and very efficient. A trunk full of
batteries is heavy, even if we are talking about the recent battery
developments.

There is clearly something to be said for Electric/trolley buses.
They are still very much in use in Boston, MA and San Francisco, CA.


And Seattle, WA and Metro Vancouver, BC.
 
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