On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 12:01:02PM -0500, wrote:

This fashion is more Kensington and Chelsea than all of London but I'm all
in favour of getting rid of railings. They are usually a real danger to
cyclists. Kerbs are another matter though. Without them motorists drive all
over the pavements. We learnt that in Cambridge 20 years ago and ended up
with a load of bollards.

Railings are a damned inconvenience to pedestrians too. Bollards are
fine.

--
David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david

It wouldn't hurt to think like a serial killer every so often.
Purely for purposes of prevention, of course.

In article ,
(David Cantrell) wrote:

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 12:01:02PM -0500,
wrote:

This fashion is more Kensington and Chelsea than all of London but
I'm all in favour of getting rid of railings. They are usually a
real danger to cyclists. Kerbs are another matter though. Without
them motorists drive all over the pavements. We learnt that in
Cambridge 20 years ago and ended up with a load of bollards.

Railings are a damned inconvenience to pedestrians too. Bollards are
fine.

Bollards are a major problem for people with impaired sight. The County
Council learnt a lot about disability at the time. A pity they didn't find
it out before planning the pedestrianisation.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 07:48:10 -0500
wrote:
Bollards are a major problem for people with impaired sight. The County

Why? Unless they left their white stick at home or have a particularly stupid
guide dog why should bollards be any more of an impediment than anything else
potentially in their way?

B2003

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 01:18:03PM +0000, d wrote:
On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 07:48:10 -0500
wrote:
Bollards are a major problem for people with impaired sight. The County
Why? Unless they left their white stick at home or have a particularly stupid
guide dog why should bollards be any more of an impediment than anything else
potentially in their way?

Quite. There's plenty of other street furniture - bus stops, signs, lamp
posts, pavement cafes, most of which seem to be in shades of grey and
brown designed specifically to be invisible during both daylight and
under artificial light - not to mention all those pesky pedestrians
moving around and tourists stopping abruptly for no good reason.

Bollards can be painted in bright red and white stripes to make them
more visible if necessary.

Argh! I agreed with Boltar!

--
David Cantrell | Official London Perl Mongers Bad Influence

Compromise: n: lowering my standards so you can meet them

On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 12:03:54 +0100
David Cantrell wrote:
Argh! I agreed with Boltar!

My masterplan continues apace...

[strokes white cat]

B2003

In article ,
(David Cantrell) wrote:

Bollards can be painted in bright red and white stripes to make them
more visible if necessary.

Unfortunately that's not always an acceptable option in historic cities.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 07:56:11AM -0500, wrote:
In article ,
(David Cantrell) wrote:
Bollards can be painted in bright red and white stripes to make them
more visible if necessary.
Unfortunately that's not always an acceptable option in historic cities.

Why on earth not?

--
David Cantrell | Official London Perl Mongers Bad Influence

What profiteth a man, if he win a flame war, yet lose his cool?

In article ,
(David Cantrell) wrote:

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 07:56:11AM -0500,
wrote:
In article ,
(David Cantrell) wrote:
Bollards can be painted in bright red and white stripes to make them
more visible if necessary.
Unfortunately that's not always an acceptable option in historic
cities.

Why on earth not?

Bollards painted in bright red and white stripes hardly enhance the local
environment.

--
Colin Rosenstiel