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An exhibition of stupidity
Exhibition Road has had the pavements and kerbs removed to turn it into
a place where pedestrians and vehicles don't quite know who is supposed to be where. Apparently that's a good thing. Anyway, blind groups have complained, so the former pavement area is now going to be covered in .... wait for it... corduroy so that the blind will know when they are on the former pavement area and when they are in the former road area. Since the presence of the corduroy will also alert everyone else to the location of the former pavement area, I can't help thinking that leaving the original road, pavement and kerbs intact would have achieved similar results with zero cost or disruption. No wonder the country's bankrupt. |
An exhibition of stupidity
Exhibition Road has had the pavements and kerbs removed to turn it
into a place where pedestrians and vehicles don't quite know who is supposed to be where. Apparently that's a good thing. Anyway, blind groups have complained, so the former pavement area is now going to be covered in ... wait for it... corduroy so that the blind will know when they are on the former pavement area and when they are in the former road area. Since the presence of the corduroy will also alert everyone else to the location of the former pavement area, I can't help thinking that leaving the original road, pavement and kerbs intact would have achieved similar results with zero cost or disruption. No wonder the country's bankrupt. I doubt if anyone involved is as stupid as someone who thinks readers will believe they are going to use confuse (cotton fibre) corduroy rather than the 800mm tactile paving corduroy which is what I have read will be used. Or did *you* think it was going to be a cotton fibre? -- Robin PM may be sent to rbw0{at}hotmail{dot}com |
An exhibition of stupidity
On 2011\09\26 16:08, Robin wrote:
Exhibition Road has had the pavements and kerbs removed to turn it into a place where pedestrians and vehicles don't quite know who is supposed to be where. Apparently that's a good thing. Anyway, blind groups have complained, so the former pavement area is now going to be covered in ... wait for it... corduroy so that the blind will know when they are on the former pavement area and when they are in the former road area. Since the presence of the corduroy will also alert everyone else to the location of the former pavement area, I can't help thinking that leaving the original road, pavement and kerbs intact would have achieved similar results with zero cost or disruption. No wonder the country's bankrupt. I doubt if anyone involved is as stupid as someone who thinks readers will believe they are going to use confuse (cotton fibre) corduroy rather than the 800mm tactile paving corduroy which is what I have read will be used. Or did *you* think it was going to be a cotton fibre? Yes, I did. It did seem strange. But my point still stands - they've spent a fortune on getting rid of the distinction between road and footway, only to reinstate it. |
An exhibition of stupidity
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An exhibition of stupidity
Paul Corfield wrote on 26 September 2011 17:34:46 ...
On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 15:27:54 +0100, Basil Jet wrote: Exhibition Road has had the pavements and kerbs removed to turn it into a place where pedestrians and vehicles don't quite know who is supposed to be where. Apparently that's a good thing. Anyway, blind groups have complained, so the former pavement area is now going to be covered in ... wait for it... corduroy so that the blind will know when they are on the former pavement area and when they are in the former road area. Since the presence of the corduroy will also alert everyone else to the location of the former pavement area, I can't help thinking that leaving the original road, pavement and kerbs intact would have achieved similar results with zero cost or disruption. No wonder the country's bankrupt. This is just the largest and most ludicrous example of "highway engineering fashion" that has been implemented in London. You only have to experience the smaller scale version on High Street Kensington and nearly be run over about 10 times in a 100 yards to know it is a preposterous idea. Is that because you can't tell (or don't care) where the carriageway starts or because drivers can't tell (or don't care) where it ends? I haven't noticed problems in KHS, but I'm not there that often. -- Richard J. (to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address) |
An exhibition of stupidity
Basil Jet wrote on 26 September 2011
16:13:43 ... On 2011\09\26 16:08, Robin wrote: Exhibition Road has had the pavements and kerbs removed to turn it into a place where pedestrians and vehicles don't quite know who is supposed to be where. Apparently that's a good thing. Anyway, blind groups have complained, so the former pavement area is now going to be covered in ... wait for it... corduroy so that the blind will know when they are on the former pavement area and when they are in the former road area. Since the presence of the corduroy will also alert everyone else to the location of the former pavement area, I can't help thinking that leaving the original road, pavement and kerbs intact would have achieved similar results with zero cost or disruption. No wonder the country's bankrupt. I doubt if anyone involved is as stupid as someone who thinks readers will believe they are going to use confuse (cotton fibre) corduroy rather than the 800mm tactile paving corduroy which is what I have read will be used. Or did *you* think it was going to be a cotton fibre? Yes, I did. It did seem strange. But my point still stands - they've spent a fortune on getting rid of the distinction between road and footway, only to reinstate it. You seem to think that the tactile ridged paving was an afterthought following 'complaints'. I thought it was always part of the design. They were carrying out tests of the ridged paving already installed on the road as long ago as December 2010. I'll just be glad when the bloody thing's finished, having just experienced the works for the third Prom season. -- Richard J. (to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address) |
An exhibition of stupidity
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haven't noticed problems in KHS, but I'm not there that often. Ditto. I also quite like what they have done at Seven Dials although that too I visit only rarely these days. -- Robin PM may be sent to rbw0{at}hotmail{dot}com |
An exhibition of stupidity
"Robin" wrote in :
Exhibition Road has had the pavements and kerbs removed to turn it into a place where pedestrians and vehicles don't quite know who is supposed to be where. Apparently that's a good thing. Anyway, blind groups have complained, so the former pavement area is now going to be covered in ... wait for it... corduroy so that the blind will know when they are on the former pavement area and when they are in the former road area. Since the presence of the corduroy will also alert everyone else to the location of the former pavement area, I can't help thinking that leaving the original road, pavement and kerbs intact would have achieved similar results with zero cost or disruption. No wonder the country's bankrupt. I doubt if anyone involved is as stupid as someone who thinks readers will believe they are going to use confuse (cotton fibre) corduroy rather than the 800mm tactile paving corduroy which is what I have read will be used. Or did *you* think it was going to be a cotton fibre? I would hope not. We are talking about the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea - not the East End. The tactile difference should at least be fur - even if the budget can't stretch to mink. :-) |
An exhibition of stupidity
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 12:01:02PM -0500, wrote:
This fashion is more Kensington and Chelsea than all of London but I'm all in favour of getting rid of railings. They are usually a real danger to cyclists. Kerbs are another matter though. Without them motorists drive all over the pavements. We learnt that in Cambridge 20 years ago and ended up with a load of bollards. Railings are a damned inconvenience to pedestrians too. Bollards are fine. -- David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david It wouldn't hurt to think like a serial killer every so often. Purely for purposes of prevention, of course. |
An exhibition of stupidity
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 09:38:47PM +0100, Richard J. wrote:
I'll just be glad when the bloody thing's finished, having just experienced the works for the third Prom season. How on earth can it take *two years* to remove the pavements!?!!? -- David Cantrell | semi-evolved ape-thing Planckton: n, the smallest possible living thing |
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