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Basil Jet[_2_] November 8th 11 11:49 PM

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There's some kind of exhibition on at 10 King William Street at the mo.
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/medi...tre/21543.aspx

Robin9 November 9th 11 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basil Jet[_2_] (Post 124222)
There's some kind of exhibition on at 10 King William Street at the mo.
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/medi...tre/21543.aspx

There was an article about this in today's Metro. Apparently TfL want to consult the general public before finalising the details.

77002 November 10th 11 05:36 PM

Bank Station, London enlargement
 
On Nov 9, 5:24*pm, Robin9 wrote:
'Basil Jet[_2_ Wrote:

;124222']There's some kind of exhibition on at 10 King William Street at
the mo.
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/medi...tre/21543.aspx


There was an article about this in today's Metro. Apparently TfL want to
consult the general public before finalising the details.

It would be great if the Northern City could be extended south to
Bank, or further.

The Gardener November 13th 11 05:51 PM

Bank Station, London enlargement
 
On Nov 10, 6:36*pm, 77002 wrote:
On Nov 9, 5:24*pm, Robin9 wrote: 'Basil Jet[_2_ Wrote:

;124222']There's some kind of exhibition on at 10 King William Street at
the mo.
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/medi...tre/21543.aspx


There was an article about this in today's Metro. Apparently TfL want to
consult the general public before finalising the details.


It would be great if the Northern City could be extended south to
Bank, or further.


Sadly, that's very unlikely as it's not that deep a line at Moorgate,
and there are building foundations in the way. In any case, without
platform lengthening, it probably would not be justified.

Clive November 13th 11 11:57 PM

Bank Station, London enlargement
 
In message
, The
Gardener writes
On Nov 10, 6:36*pm, 77002 wrote:
On Nov 9, 5:24*pm, Robin9 wrote:
'Basil Jet[_2_ Wrote:
;124222']There's some kind of exhibition on at 10 King William Street at
the mo.
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/medi...tre/21543.aspx
There was an article about this in today's Metro. Apparently TfL want to
consult the general public before finalising the details.

It would be great if the Northern City could be extended south to
Bank, or further.

Sadly, that's very unlikely as it's not that deep a line at Moorgate,
and there are building foundations in the way. In any case, without
platform lengthening, it probably would not be justified.

It's a long time since I was on the Northern line, but I thought it was
at the same level as the northern and I do remember that the tube stock
it used looked ridiculously small for the size of station and tunnel.
However I do remember some years ago reading that it would be idea to
line up with the DLR at Bank because of the latter's need for a larger
bore.
--
Clive


Ganesh Sittampalam November 14th 11 12:16 PM

Bank Station enlargement
 
On Nov 9, 5:24*pm, Robin9 wrote:
'Basil Jet[_2_ Wrote:

;124222']There's some kind of exhibition on at 10 King William Street at
the mo.
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/medi...tre/21543.aspx


There was an article about this in today's Metro. Apparently TfL want to
consult the general public before finalising the details.


I popped into the exhibition on Friday. General plan is a new entrance
to the Bank/Monument complex from 10 King William St, which is why
they had the exhibition there. It's on the road between Bank and
Monument, a bit closer to the Monument end.

There'll be new pedestrian routes from the new entrance to most/all of
the tube platforms, and they'll also be shifting the southbound
Northern line across substantially to increase the gap to the
northbound line, allowing for much more space for pedestrian
circulation.

They need to get TWA approval and they expect there to be a public
enquiry, but the cost will come out of TfL's normal budget.

Ganesh

Clive November 14th 11 01:25 PM

Bank Station enlargement
 
In message
,
Ganesh Sittampalam writes
There'll be new pedestrian routes from the new entrance to most/all of
the tube platforms, and they'll also be shifting the southbound
Northern line across substantially to increase the gap to the
northbound line, allowing for much more space for pedestrian
circulation.

I remember a few years ago, changing tubes at Bank and the interchange
required a walk along the entire length of Bank's Northern line station.
I can't remember where I was going from or to, any help?
--
Clive


Roland Perry November 14th 11 02:17 PM

Bank Station enlargement
 
In message , at 14:25:16 on Mon,
14 Nov 2011, Clive remarked:
I remember a few years ago, changing tubes at Bank and the interchange
required a walk along the entire length of Bank's Northern line
station. I can't remember where I was going from or to, any help?


Central to Circle.
--
Roland Perry

Martin Rich[_2_] November 14th 11 10:50 PM

Bank Station, London enlargement
 

"The Gardener" wrote in message
...

It would be great if the Northern City could be extended south to
Bank, or further.


Sadly, that's very unlikely as it's not that deep a line at Moorgate,
and there are building foundations in the way. In any case, without
platform lengthening, it probably would not be justified.


If I remember rightly, it's not just any building foundations, but the the
Bank of England's vaults, that would thwart this particular extension.

Martin


Basil Jet[_2_] November 15th 11 03:18 AM

Bank Station, London enlargement
 
On 2011\11\14 23:50, Martin Rich wrote:

"The Gardener" wrote in message
...

It would be great if the Northern City could be extended south to
Bank, or further.


Sadly, that's very unlikely as it's not that deep a line at Moorgate,
and there are building foundations in the way. In any case, without
platform lengthening, it probably would not be justified.


If I remember rightly, it's not just any building foundations, but the
the Bank of England's vaults, that would thwart this particular extension.


I think you're thinking of the Waterloo & City Line. The Great Northern
is far enough away from Bank that you could avoid any particular
building if you were happy to demolish others.

m1ss_wh1te November 15th 11 08:25 AM

Bank Station, London enlargement
 
On Nov 14, 11:50*pm, "Martin Rich" wrote:

the
Bank of England's vaults, that would thwart this particular extension.


Cost no object then.

Sam Wilson November 15th 11 09:58 AM

Bank Station, London enlargement
 
In article
,
m1ss_wh1te wrote:

On Nov 14, 11:50*pm, "Martin Rich" wrote:

the
Bank of England's vaults, that would thwart this particular extension.


Cost no object then.


If you raise enough capital to get the project started you could make it
self funding.

Until they caught you, of course.

Sam

Nick Leverton November 15th 11 10:03 AM

Bank Station, London enlargement
 
In article ,
Sam Wilson wrote:
In article
,
m1ss_wh1te wrote:

On Nov 14, 11:50*pm, "Martin Rich" wrote:

the
Bank of England's vaults, that would thwart this particular extension.


Cost no object then.


If you raise enough capital to get the project started you could make it
self funding.


It'd never work though, Brown flogged all the gold for a song.

Nick
--
Serendipity: http://www.leverton.org/blosxom (last update 29th March 2010)
"The Internet, a sort of ersatz counterfeit of real life"
-- Janet Street-Porter, BBC2, 19th March 1996

Nick Leverton November 15th 11 10:14 AM

Bank Station, London enlargement
 
In article ,
Basil Jet wrote:
On 2011\11\14 23:50, Martin Rich wrote:

"The Gardener" wrote in message
...

It would be great if the Northern City could be extended south to
Bank, or further.


Sadly, that's very unlikely as it's not that deep a line at Moorgate,
and there are building foundations in the way. In any case, without
platform lengthening, it probably would not be justified.


If I remember rightly, it's not just any building foundations, but the
the Bank of England's vaults, that would thwart this particular extension.


I think you're thinking of the Waterloo & City Line. The Great Northern
is far enough away from Bank that you could avoid any particular
building if you were happy to demolish others.


The GN&C has, or at least had, a safeguarded extension route to Lothbury,
and in 1912 there was a parliamentary bill submitted (by the Metropolitan)
to extend the GN&C to there and link to the W&C, so the vaults can't be
an insuperable obstacle for either line. The link was rejected because
of property objections, true, but if it wasn't feasible then I don't
think the Met would have wasted money on a Bill.

Nick
--
Serendipity: http://www.leverton.org/blosxom (last update 29th March 2010)
"The Internet, a sort of ersatz counterfeit of real life"
-- Janet Street-Porter, BBC2, 19th March 1996

Tim Watts[_2_] November 15th 11 10:17 AM

Bank Station, London enlargement
 
Nick Leverton wrote:

In article ,
Sam Wilson wrote:
In article
,
m1ss_wh1te wrote:

On Nov 14, 11:50�pm, "Martin Rich" wrote:

the
Bank of England's vaults, that would thwart this particular extension.

Cost no object then.


If you raise enough capital to get the project started you could make it
self funding.


It'd never work though, Brown flogged all the gold for a song.

Nick


Other countries have gold in the BoE vaults - now who do we not like this
month?

--
Tim Watts

77002 November 15th 11 05:20 PM

Bank Station, London enlargement
 
On Nov 15, 11:14*am, Nick Leverton wrote:
In article ,
Basil Jet wrote:





On 2011\11\14 23:50, Martin Rich wrote:


"The Gardener" wrote in message
....


It would be great if the Northern City could be extended south to
Bank, or further.


Sadly, that's very unlikely as it's not that deep a line at Moorgate,
and there are building foundations in the way. In any case, without
platform lengthening, it probably would not be justified.


If I remember rightly, it's not just any building foundations, but the
the Bank of England's vaults, that would thwart this particular extension.


I think you're thinking of the Waterloo & City Line. The Great Northern
is far enough away from Bank that you could avoid any particular
building if you were happy to demolish others.


The GN&C has, or at least had, a safeguarded extension route to Lothbury,
and in 1912 there was a parliamentary bill submitted (by the Metropolitan)
to extend the GN&C to there and link to the W&C, so the vaults can't be
an insuperable obstacle for either line. *The link was rejected because
of property objections, true, but if it wasn't feasible then I don't
think the Met would have wasted money on a Bill.

Just reaching Bank would be great. If the line could continue to
Cannon Street and London Bridge, all the better.

Martin Rich[_2_] November 15th 11 10:04 PM

Bank Station, London enlargement
 

"Nick Leverton" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Basil Jet wrote:

I think you're thinking of the Waterloo & City Line. The Great Northern
is far enough away from Bank that you could avoid any particular
building if you were happy to demolish others.


The GN&C has, or at least had, a safeguarded extension route to Lothbury,
and in 1912 there was a parliamentary bill submitted (by the Metropolitan)
to extend the GN&C to there and link to the W&C, so the vaults can't be
an insuperable obstacle for either line. The link was rejected because
of property objections, true, but if it wasn't feasible then I don't
think the Met would have wasted money on a Bill.


It's possible that the extension was only possible until the Bank of England
was rebuilt in the 1930s. Their page at
http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/educa...buildings8.htm
suggested that this rebuilding included a lot of construction below ground,
though apparently offices rather than vaults. It's also possible that the
safeguarded route ended at Lothbury rather than Bank Station to avoid going
under the Bank of England, but that would be hard to reconcile with the
intention of linking up with the Waterloo and City.

In any case John, aka Basil Jet, is probably right that I misremembered and
it's the W & C for which the bank's vaults would preclude any extension

Martin



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