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Do you live above a tube tunnel?
Some residents who live above the proposed line of the Crossrail tunnels
are concerned about possible noise and vibration in their homes when the trains are running. Is there anyone on utl who lives or works directly above an existing tube (not sub-surface) tunnel? If so, do you experience any noise and vibration? Similarly, have you had any cracks and subsidence? There was a report in March 2002 that the land above the line of the JLE had sunk by the odd centimetre. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
Do you live above a tube tunnel?
"Richard J." wrote in message
... Some residents who live above the proposed line of the Crossrail tunnels are concerned about possible noise and vibration in their homes when the trains are running. Is there anyone on utl who lives or works directly above an existing tube (not sub-surface) tunnel? If so, do you experience any noise and vibration? Some long time ago, the Glass Manufacturers Federation had their offices in Portland Place. When in the basement, you could just about hear the Bakerloo line trains passing below. -- Terry Harper, Web Co-ordinator, The Omnibus Society http://www.omnibussoc.org E-mail: URL: http://www.terry.harper.btinternet.co.uk/ |
Do you live above a tube tunnel?
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 17:51:01 +0000 (UTC), "Terry Harper"
wrote: "Richard J." wrote in message ... Some residents who live above the proposed line of the Crossrail tunnels are concerned about possible noise and vibration in their homes when the trains are running. Is there anyone on utl who lives or works directly above an existing tube (not sub-surface) tunnel? If so, do you experience any noise and vibration? Some long time ago, the Glass Manufacturers Federation had their offices in Portland Place. When in the basement, you could just about hear the Bakerloo line trains passing below. You can certainly hear a few feet down to the Hammersmith and City from the toilets in the Euston Flyer! I seem to recall a friend saying something similar about somewhere in the centre of town above the Central Line though... -- Rob |
Do you live above a tube tunnel?
"Richard J." wrote in message
... If so, do you experience any noise and vibration? As a child I regularly visited the cinema in Turnpike Lane, and the Piccadilly trains were quite audible. Tunnel, track and train construction have improved since then, though, but you can still hear Victoria Line trains while standing on the (overground) platforms at Drayton Park. -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
Do you live above a tube tunnel?
"Richard J." wrote in message ... Some residents who live above the proposed line of the Crossrail tunnels are concerned about possible noise and vibration in their homes when the trains are running. Is there anyone on utl who lives or works directly above an existing tube (not sub-surface) tunnel? If so, do you experience any noise and vibration? Similarly, have you had any cracks and subsidence? There was a report in March 2002 that the land above the line of the JLE had sunk by the odd centimetre. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) Used to live right above the Central Line on Shepherds Bush Green. I lived on the first floor but the noise from the passing trains below was very evident in the evenings (I believe the trains went around a bend below so the noise was probably worse). The Central line, however, is almost certainly much closer to the surface than Crossrail will be. Also Crossrail can be constructed with noise dampening measures built into the track bed, and the track is bound to be continuously welded, so I would guess the noise problem will be much, much less. Colin |
Do you live above a tube tunnel?
Terry Harper wrote:
Some long time ago, the Glass Manufacturers Federation had their offices in Portland Place. When in the basement, you could just about hear the Bakerloo line trains passing below. You can also hear them from certain parts of the basement of Shell Centre (York Road, Waterloo). The building is constructed on a concrete raft, which is said to come within a few feet of the Bakerloo tunnel. -- John Ray, London UK. Mail to mefp49 is unlikely to be read. I can be contacted at xcf70 (same ISP). |
Do you live above a tube tunnel?
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Some residents who live above the proposed line of the Crossrail tunnels are concerned about possible noise and vibration in their homes when the trains are running. Is there anyone on utl who lives or works directly above an existing tube (not sub-surface) tunnel? If so, do you experience any noise and vibration? Similarly, have you had any cracks and subsidence? There was a report in March 2002 that the land above the line of the JLE had sunk by the odd centimetre. My sister's house is above the Central Line tunnels and you can hear a very low rumbling sound when all else is quiet - it is almost felt rather than heard. They are used to it but when I stay the night the first train in the morning sometimes wakes me up. The house is about 100 years old and some cracks and settlement were noted by the surveyor when they bought it - but nothing serious or unusual for a property of that age. She also has the DLR running behind her back garden and a bus garage at the front - but she seems to be happy there! In addition to the widely reported 'disappearance into the void' of a number of back gardens in Stratford there are also apparaently cracks appearing in properties in Romford Road above the Channel Tunnel Rail Link. Apparently the official response is that the tunneling may well have caused limited ground settlement and Union Railways have offered to survey the properties and repair any damage caused by this. |
Do you live above a tube tunnel?
In article , Rob
id writes On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 17:51:01 +0000 (UTC), "Terry Harper" wrote: "Richard J." wrote in message ... Some residents who live above the proposed line of the Crossrail tunnels are concerned about possible noise and vibration in their homes when the trains are running. Is there anyone on utl who lives or works directly above an existing tube (not sub-surface) tunnel? If so, do you experience any noise and vibration? Some long time ago, the Glass Manufacturers Federation had their offices in Portland Place. When in the basement, you could just about hear the Bakerloo line trains passing below. You can certainly hear a few feet down to the Hammersmith and City from the toilets in the Euston Flyer! I seem to recall a friend saying something similar about somewhere in the centre of town above the Central Line though... I used to work in Yalding House in Gt Portland St, and you could hear the Victoria line in the basement... And I remember the old (now demolished) cinema at Turnpike Lane, where I saw Earthquake, with it's special seat-shaking sound, and only realised that the vibrations I'd been feeling were not the special effects but tube trains sometime into the film, as they shook the seats more than the special effects.... -- Steve -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCM/B$ d++(-) s+:+ a+ C++ UL++ L+ P+ W++ N+++ K w--- O V PS+++ PE- t+ 5++ X- R* tv+ b+++ DI++ G e h---- r+++ z++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ |
Do you live above a tube tunnel?
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Do you live above a tube tunnel?
On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 14:26:15 GMT, "Richard J."
wrote: Some residents who live above the proposed line of the Crossrail tunnels are concerned about possible noise and vibration in their homes when the trains are running. Is there anyone on utl who lives or works directly above an existing tube (not sub-surface) tunnel? If so, do you experience any noise and vibration? I don't live above a tube tunnel. However the Crossrail tunnels are likely to be far deeper than tube tunnels. They will also be constructed to far higher standards than any tube line in London barring the recent DLR and JLE tunnels. While I don't think anyone can provide a guarantee that there will be no noise I would say the risk from modern infrastructure design and modern rolling stock will be low. Obvious areas of potential environmental harm will have to be identified and mitigated / removed in order for the project to proceed. Similarly, have you had any cracks and subsidence? There was a report in March 2002 that the land above the line of the JLE had sunk by the odd centimetre. Not aware of any JLE subsidence but there are provisions in the legislation that allowed construction to put right any damage that is demonstrably caused by the line. Such provisions are standard practice and usually put in place to deal with issues raised by objectors to the scheme. -- Paul C Admits to working for London Underground! |
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