On Dec 30, 6:09*am, Lüko Willms wrote:
Am 29.12.2011 22:25, schrieb The Real Doctor:

On 29/12/11 21:05, Lüko Willms wrote:
The thing is that railway workers are workers, and not so easily purged
as all the professors at the university and journalists in the media.

And if there is one group who should know about purging, it's apologists
for Stalinism.[1]

* *Whatever; the purge in the ex-GDR was of a magnitude which exceeded
everything ever experienced under the rule of a stalinist burocrady.

There is something especially poisonous about Stalinists, still
attempting to minimise his crimes so long after Khrushchev's secret
speech, isn't there? Are you seriously saying that there was mass-
killings and show-trials in Germany post-unification on a scale to
dwarf the killings in 1937-8?

ian

Am 30.12.2011 19:58, schrieb ian batten:
There is something especially poisonous about Stalinists, still
attempting to minimise his crimes so long after Khrushchev's secret
speech, isn't there? Are you seriously saying that there was mass-
killings and show-trials in Germany post-unification on a scale to
dwarf the killings in 1937-8?

If you could read or even understand what you are reading, you would
not ask such silly questions.

Show trials were held, yes. Mass killings not, but lots of people got
thrown into misery, with their old age pensions cut because of their
political stance.

But there are lots of German capitalist politicians who dream of
using the army against their own population. In Afghanistan they have
tested a terrorist attack killing 150 people by making two tank lorry
explode, which were stuck in a sand bank in a middle of a river
crossing, unable to move forth or back.

But I can't let you blur the actual issue we are discussing he the
railway workers in Berlin, whose social conquests of the past 6 decades
could not be destroyed by the FRG taking over the GDR, what Herr Schnell
now wants to accomplish by dissolving the current S-Bahn Berlin GmbH and
making all their workers jobless.


L.W.

On 30/12/11 21:39, Lüko Willms wrote:
Show trials were held, yes. Mass killings not

Is that you defending the Gulags again?

Ian

Am 31.12.2011 00:49, schrieb The Real Doctor:
Is that you defending the Gulags again?


That is YOUR cup of tea. YOU are the nostalgic of colonial
oppression, concentration camps and so on.

On Dec 31, 7:00*am, Lüko Willms wrote:
Am 31.12.2011 00:49, schrieb The Real Doctor:

Is that you defending the Gulags again?

* *That is YOUR cup of tea. YOU are the nostalgic of colonial
oppression, concentration camps and so on.

Let's be clear, in LW land: Stalin --- did he order people killed, or
not?

ian

On 31/12/11 07:00, Lüko Willms wrote:
Am 31.12.2011 00:49, schrieb The Real Doctor:
Is that you defending the Gulags again?


That is YOUR cup of tea. YOU are the nostalgic of colonial oppression,
concentration camps and so on.

No I'm not. Don't be silly, Lüko. The difference between us is that I
think Stalin's concentration camps were as bad as Hitler's and that
Soviet colonialism in Europe was as immoral as European colonialism in
Africa.

Ian

Am 31.12.2011 10:49, schrieb The Real Doctor:
The difference between us is that I think Stalin's concentration camps
were as bad as Hitler's and that Soviet colonialism in Europe was as
immoral as European colonialism in Africa.

You put that on equal terms in order to embellish the history of
colonialism.

You still stick to maintain as much as possible of the colonial
empire of your master. Poor slave...

On 31/12/11 10:23, Lüko Willms wrote:
Am 31.12.2011 10:49, schrieb The Real Doctor:
The difference between us is that I think Stalin's concentration camps
were as bad as Hitler's and that Soviet colonialism in Europe was as
immoral as European colonialism in Africa.

You put that on equal terms in order to embellish the history of
colonialism.

That doesn't actually mean anything, you know. Auf Deutsch?

You still stick to maintain as much as possible of the colonial empire
of your master. Poor slave...

Nope. Couldn't care less about the remaining colonies. As long as the
people who live there want to be part of Britain, let 'em. If they
decide they want to leave, that's fine by me.

Ian

On Dec 30, 11:49*pm, The Real Doctor
wrote:
On 30/12/11 21:39, Lüko Willms wrote:

Show trials were held, yes. Mass killings not

Is that you defending the Gulags again?


He appears to be claiming Stalin didn't kill his political opponents.
Next stop: Holocaust denial.

ian

Am 31.12.2011 09:02, schrieb ian batten:
claiming Stalin didn't kill his political opponents.

Do you?