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On 30/12/11 21:39, Lüko Willms wrote:
Show trials were held, yes. Mass killings not


Is that you defending the Gulags again?

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Am 31.12.2011 00:49, schrieb The Real Doctor:
Is that you defending the Gulags again?



That is YOUR cup of tea. YOU are the nostalgic of colonial
oppression, concentration camps and so on.


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On Dec 31, 7:00*am, Lüko Willms wrote:
Am 31.12.2011 00:49, schrieb The Real Doctor:

Is that you defending the Gulags again?


* *That is YOUR cup of tea. YOU are the nostalgic of colonial
oppression, concentration camps and so on.


Let's be clear, in LW land: Stalin --- did he order people killed, or
not?

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On 31/12/11 07:00, Lüko Willms wrote:
Am 31.12.2011 00:49, schrieb The Real Doctor:
Is that you defending the Gulags again?



That is YOUR cup of tea. YOU are the nostalgic of colonial oppression,
concentration camps and so on.


No I'm not. Don't be silly, Lüko. The difference between us is that I
think Stalin's concentration camps were as bad as Hitler's and that
Soviet colonialism in Europe was as immoral as European colonialism in
Africa.

Ian

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Am 31.12.2011 10:49, schrieb The Real Doctor:
The difference between us is that I think Stalin's concentration camps
were as bad as Hitler's and that Soviet colonialism in Europe was as
immoral as European colonialism in Africa.


You put that on equal terms in order to embellish the history of
colonialism.

You still stick to maintain as much as possible of the colonial
empire of your master. Poor slave...





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On 31/12/11 10:23, Lüko Willms wrote:
Am 31.12.2011 10:49, schrieb The Real Doctor:
The difference between us is that I think Stalin's concentration camps
were as bad as Hitler's and that Soviet colonialism in Europe was as
immoral as European colonialism in Africa.


You put that on equal terms in order to embellish the history of
colonialism.


That doesn't actually mean anything, you know. Auf Deutsch?

You still stick to maintain as much as possible of the colonial empire
of your master. Poor slave...


Nope. Couldn't care less about the remaining colonies. As long as the
people who live there want to be part of Britain, let 'em. If they
decide they want to leave, that's fine by me.

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Am 31.12.2011 12:07, schrieb The Real Doctor:
You still stick to maintain as much as possible of the colonial empire
of your master. Poor slave...


Nope. Couldn't care less about the remaining colonies.


Oh, talk about the Malvinas Islands, Ireland, what have you.


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On 31/12/2011 12:55, Lüko Willms wrote:
Am 31.12.2011 12:07, schrieb The Real Doctor:
You still stick to maintain as much as possible of the colonial empire
of your master. Poor slave...


Nope. Couldn't care less about the remaining colonies.


Oh, talk about the Malvinas Islands, Ireland, what have you.



So you can demonstrate your appalling ignorance of the situation in
those places?

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On 31/12/11 12:55, Lüko Willms wrote:

Oh, talk about the Malvinas Islands, Ireland, what have you.


The Falklands? Yes, happy to talk about them.

I think it was just as daft for Britain to assume that it had the right
to rule a smaller island of its coast as it is for the Argentina to
assume it has the right to rule a small island off its coast.

If the inhabitants of the Falklands were to show a clear majority desire
to join Argentina, I'd be happy to wish them buena suerte, and if the
inhabitants of NI were to show a clear majority desire to join the
Republic then luck maith to them too.

Now, explain again why you think that the USSR had the right to colonize
and suppress Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Poland, East Germany, Hungary,
Bulgaria and Czechoslovakia for decades?

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On Dec 30, 11:49*pm, The Real Doctor
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On 30/12/11 21:39, Lüko Willms wrote:

Show trials were held, yes. Mass killings not


Is that you defending the Gulags again?


He appears to be claiming Stalin didn't kill his political opponents.
Next stop: Holocaust denial.

ian


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