In message , at 15:35:51 on Wed, 4
Jan 2012, Robin9 remarked:
You mention 100,000 people arriving in the course of a day. We have been
told that millions, not hundreds of thousands, will come to London for
the Olympics.

There are supposed to be 6.6m tickets available to the public, about
half of which are for football (which is typically outside London). So
maybe there are about 5m "London" tickets altogether if you add in the
ones for sports insiders and sponsors. Spread over approx 10 days that's
500k/day. The main stadium holds 80k, and ExCel 40k. And you've also got
the officials, other staff, security, and not forgetting the athletes.

(If anyone has better numbers, I'd be glad to receive them).

ps. For an idea of the pre-planning, traffic estimates etc for one site,
see:
http://www.london2012.com/excel/cons...application.ht
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Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" wrote in message

In message , at 15:35:51 on Wed, 4
Jan 2012, Robin9 remarked:
You mention 100,000 people arriving in the course of a day. We have
been told that millions, not hundreds of thousands, will come to
London for the Olympics.

There are supposed to be 6.6m tickets available to the public, about
half of which are for football (which is typically outside London). So
maybe there are about 5m "London" tickets altogether if you add in the
ones for sports insiders and sponsors. Spread over approx 10 days
that's 500k/day. The main stadium holds 80k, and ExCel 40k. And
you've also got the officials, other staff, security, and not
forgetting the athletes.
(If anyone has better numbers, I'd be glad to receive them).

ps. For an idea of the pre-planning, traffic estimates etc for one
site, see:
http://www.london2012.com/excel/consultation-and-planning-application.html

Of course, there will also be many spectators at other events in the
main Olympics site at Stratford as there are a number of smaller arenas
(eg, aquatics, water polo, hockey, cycling, etc). Most will presumably
arrive by rail, typically at one or other of the two Stratford stations,
plus a smaller number from West Ham. I wonder if many people will have
tickets to two separate events on the same day?

I'm also guessing that the athletes and other sports insiders will make
little use of public transport when travelling to venues -- presumably
they have dedicated buses and cars (the infamous fleet of 4000 BMWs)?

In message , at 11:26:46 on
Thu, 5 Jan 2012, Recliner remarked:

You mention 100,000 people arriving in the course of a day. We have
been told that millions, not hundreds of thousands, will come to
London for the Olympics.

There are supposed to be 6.6m tickets available to the public, about
half of which are for football (which is typically outside London). So
maybe there are about 5m "London" tickets altogether if you add in the
ones for sports insiders and sponsors. Spread over approx 10 days
that's 500k/day. The main stadium holds 80k, and ExCel 40k. And
you've also got the officials, other staff, security, and not
forgetting the athletes.
(If anyone has better numbers, I'd be glad to receive them).

ps. For an idea of the pre-planning, traffic estimates etc for one
site, see:
http://www.london2012.com/excel/consultation-and-planning-application.html

Of course, there will also be many spectators at other events in the
main Olympics site at Stratford as there are a number of smaller arenas
(eg, aquatics, water polo, hockey, cycling, etc).

That's right, part of the gap between the 500k and the 80k (+40k ExCel
etc). I haven't totted up the total numbers on the main site, but
presumably there's a planning document a bit like the ExCel one, but
longer, with the predicted numbers in.

Most will presumably arrive by rail, typically at one or other of the
two Stratford stations, plus a smaller number from West Ham. I wonder
if many people will have tickets to two separate events on the same day?

As it was literally a lottery, and I don't think they had a concept of
linked events giving you a better probability of two tickets if they
happened to be the same day, probably very few.

I'm also guessing that the athletes and other sports insiders will make
little use of public transport when travelling to venues -- presumably
they have dedicated buses and cars (the infamous fleet of 4000 BMWs)?

The sports insiders will be more than the VIPs, for example atheletes'
families. I'd expect them to be using public transport.
--
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" wrote in message

In message , at 11:26:46 on
Thu, 5 Jan 2012, Recliner remarked:

I'm also guessing that the athletes and other sports insiders will
make little use of public transport when travelling to venues --
presumably they have dedicated buses and cars (the infamous fleet of
4000 BMWs)?

The sports insiders will be more than the VIPs, for example atheletes'
families. I'd expect them to be using public transport.

That's an interesting point -- is there any provision to house at least
some athletes' families in the village, or are they on their own,
needing to find hotel rooms like any ordinary spectators? Many athletes
are just immature teenagers, possibly unused to international travel, so
they may find the whole experience of getting around London quite
daunting. Their families may also be unused to it, so may not be able to
provide much support.

In message , at 12:33:26 on
Thu, 5 Jan 2012, Recliner remarked:

is there any provision to house at least some athletes' families in the
village, or are they on their own, needing to find hotel rooms like any
ordinary spectators? Many athletes are just immature teenagers,
possibly unused to international travel, so they may find the whole
experience of getting around London quite daunting. Their families may
also be unused to it, so may not be able to provide much support.

I'd expect some special arrangements for athletes who are under 18 (they
won't allow volunteers under 18 - actually worse, those who aren't 18
when applying to be a volunteer last year). And it's up to the team
managers to organise things for their people.

I don't know if athletes are allowed to bring a "+1" to the village,
whether that's a partner, parent or chaperone.
--
Roland Perry

The sports insiders will be more than the VIPs, for example atheletes'
families. I'd expect them to be using public transport.

That's an interesting point -- is there any provision to house at least
some athletes' families in the village, or are they on their own,
needing to find hotel rooms like any ordinary spectators? Many athletes
are just immature teenagers, possibly unused to international travel, so
they may find the whole experience of getting around London quite
daunting. Their families may also be unused to it, so may not be able to
provide much support.

The brother of a friend of mine competed at the Atlanta games in 1996,
and my friend and his family were put up with a family in Atlanta - so
not in the village, but they were 'assisted' with accommodation. I guess
this year will be no different.