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Anon January 16th 04 12:09 PM

Northern Line worry
 
I have heard rumours from different sources that the Northern Line services
will remain as they are for a long time. There is no immediate plan to allow
via Bank services from the High Barnet branch. Will this be another
Mornington Crescent situation.



Corky January 17th 04 03:11 PM

Northern Line worry
 
"Anon" wrote in message ...
I have heard rumours from different sources that the Northern Line services
will remain as they are for a long time. There is no immediate plan to allow
via Bank services from the High Barnet branch. Will this be another
Mornington Crescent situation.


I wouldn't mind betting that LU prefer running the line in that
configuration as it makes timetabling and train movements a whole lot
more simple. There are effectively two lines operating that happen to
converge at Camden Town.

AFAIK High Barnet/Mill Hill East - Kennington Loop and Edgware -
Morden work quite nicely independently.

Tony Wilson January 17th 04 09:11 PM

Northern Line worry
 
According to The Times this week, the Mayor told a meeting of the London
Assembly that 'normal' service on the Northern Line may never resume due to
safety concerns about reintroducing the crossover of services at Camden
Town.

Don't know any details.

"Corky" wrote in message
om...
"Anon" wrote in message

...
I have heard rumours from different sources that the Northern Line

services
will remain as they are for a long time. There is no immediate plan to

allow
via Bank services from the High Barnet branch. Will this be another
Mornington Crescent situation.


I wouldn't mind betting that LU prefer running the line in that
configuration as it makes timetabling and train movements a whole lot
more simple. There are effectively two lines operating that happen to
converge at Camden Town.

AFAIK High Barnet/Mill Hill East - Kennington Loop and Edgware -
Morden work quite nicely independently.




Helen Deborah Vecht January 18th 04 09:00 AM

Northern Line worry
 
(Corky)typed


"Anon" wrote in message
...
I have heard rumours from different sources that the Northern Line
services
will remain as they are for a long time. There is no immediate plan
to allow
via Bank services from the High Barnet branch. Will this be another
Mornington Crescent situation.


I wouldn't mind betting that LU prefer running the line in that
configuration as it makes timetabling and train movements a whole lot
more simple. There are effectively two lines operating that happen to
converge at Camden Town.


AFAIK High Barnet/Mill Hill East - Kennington Loop and Edgware -
Morden work quite nicely independently.


Not if you *need* a seat, as I do and get uncomfortable in crowds.
Changing at Camden town is horrible and very crowded.

--
Helen D. Vecht:

Edgware.

TheOneKEA January 18th 04 01:08 PM

Northern Line worry
 
"Tony Wilson" wrote in message ...
According to The Times this week, the Mayor told a meeting of the London
Assembly that 'normal' service on the Northern Line may never resume due to
safety concerns about reintroducing the crossover of services at Camden
Town.

Don't know any details.


I've read rumours on this newsgroup that at one point TfL were
seriously considering a permanent separation of the Northern Line, by
modifying the track layout at Camden Town and effectively turning the
Northern Line into a larger version of the fork seen on the in-stock
line map on the Piccadilly Line. Is this still being considered?

Brad

[email protected] January 18th 04 08:20 PM

Northern Line worry
 
In article ,
(Tony Wilson) wrote:

According to The Times this week, the Mayor told a meeting of the London
Assembly that 'normal' service on the Northern Line may never resume
due to
safety concerns about reintroducing the crossover of services at Camden
Town.

Don't know any details.

"Corky" wrote in message
om...
"Anon" wrote in message

...
I have heard rumours from different sources that the Northern Line

services
will remain as they are for a long time. There is no immediate plan
to

allow
via Bank services from the High Barnet branch. Will this be another
Mornington Crescent situation.


I wouldn't mind betting that LU prefer running the line in that
configuration as it makes timetabling and train movements a whole lot
more simple. There are effectively two lines operating that happen to
converge at Camden Town.

AFAIK High Barnet/Mill Hill East - Kennington Loop and Edgware -
Morden work quite nicely independently.




As far as I'm aware, the original timetable 48 is still going to come back
in shortly.

Roger

Dave Arquati January 18th 04 11:08 PM

Northern Line worry
 
Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:

(Corky)typed



"Anon" wrote in message
...

I have heard rumours from different sources that the Northern Line
services
will remain as they are for a long time. There is no immediate plan
to allow
via Bank services from the High Barnet branch. Will this be another
Mornington Crescent situation.



I wouldn't mind betting that LU prefer running the line in that
configuration as it makes timetabling and train movements a whole lot
more simple. There are effectively two lines operating that happen to
converge at Camden Town.



AFAIK High Barnet/Mill Hill East - Kennington Loop and Edgware -
Morden work quite nicely independently.



Not if you *need* a seat, as I do and get uncomfortable in crowds.
Changing at Camden town is horrible and very crowded.

It also seems like rather a waste of the expense and effort that went
into connecting the two lines in the first place with the most versatile
junction possible...

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7

Sam Holloway January 19th 04 09:42 AM

Northern Line worry
 
On 17 Jan 2004 08:11:10 -0800, (Corky)
wrote:
"Anon" wrote in message ...
I have heard rumours from different sources that the Northern Line services
will remain as they are for a long time. There is no immediate plan to allow
via Bank services from the High Barnet branch. Will this be another
Mornington Crescent situation.

...

AFAIK High Barnet/Mill Hill East - Kennington Loop and Edgware -
Morden work quite nicely independently.


Regardless of how well the trains run, there's a huge problem in that
Camden Town platforms and interchanges are not up to coping with all
the additional changing that's going on. I would have thought that
would be a serious pressure to move back to the old system of working.

Sam
--
Sam Holloway, Cambridge

John Rowland January 19th 04 10:26 AM

Northern Line worry
 
"Sam Holloway" wrote in message
...

Regardless of how well the trains run, there's a
huge problem in that Camden Town platforms and
interchanges are not up to coping with all the
additional changing that's going on. I would have
thought that would be a serious pressure to move
back to the old system of working.


Over time the number of people changing there would fall, as people
reorganise their place of living and place of working around the new
regime...

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes



Dave Liney January 19th 04 11:59 AM

Northern Line worry
 

"John Rowland" wrote in message
...
"Sam Holloway" wrote in message
...

Regardless of how well the trains run, there's a
huge problem in that Camden Town platforms and
interchanges are not up to coping with all the
additional changing that's going on. I would have
thought that would be a serious pressure to move
back to the old system of working.


Over time the number of people changing there would fall, as people
reorganise their place of living and place of working around the new
regime...


Are you seriously suggesting that no-one living on the Edgware branch wants
to go to the West End, and that those on the High Barnet branch only want to
go to the City?

People don't arrange their lives around the through running of the Northern
Line.

Dave.




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