On Mar 17, 12:10*pm, Roland Perry wrote:

In message ,
at 06:45:22 on Sat, 17 Mar 2012,
remarked:

There's buses in Nottingham with "up to every 8 minutes" written on
them. Which defies parsing.

Similarly the Cambridge Park and Ride buses with "up to every 10 minutes".

There's a "glass half full/half empty" issue with these claims.

I read them as "you'll always have to wait at least 10 minutes for a
bus", and it says nothing about how many tph they are offering (the
gullible assume it's 6tph of course).

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In message
, at
05:39:38 on Sat, 17 Mar 2012, Mizter T remarked:
There's buses in Nottingham with "up to every 8 minutes" written on
them. Which defies parsing.

Similarly the Cambridge Park and Ride buses with "up to every 10 minutes".

There's a "glass half full/half empty" issue with these claims.

I read them as "you'll always have to wait at least 10 minutes for a
bus", and it says nothing about how many tph they are offering (the
gullible assume it's 6tph of course).

"up to every 10 minutes" is intended to suggest that the buses run as
frequently as every ten minutes a lot of the time, but less frequently
than that at other times.

Not that they are *more* frequent than that at other times.

Hence if you've just missed one, you can guarantee a wait of ten minutes
at 'peak' periods, and longer than that outside peak periods.

Gullible punters translate "every 10 minutes" into 6tph, even though
(for example) the Oxford Tube's "every 10 minutes" is actually "every
10-15 minutes", even in the peaks, so could be as few as 4tph.
--
Roland Perry

I used copy and paste from the flash at their front page. Here is a
screenshot: http://imgur.com/l40dy .


The words I quoted were from the non-Flash page. There's a screengrab
at
http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/a..._not_Flash.jpg

I do indeed see the words you and others quoted if I enable Flash.

Looks to me as if someone converted the older text to Flash and lost the
crucial (for advertising standards purposes) "from".


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Robin
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No, it doesn't. (And they call them coaches, not buses.) It says what
Jarle quoted above.

Pl see the reply to JHK just posted.
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Robin
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In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
06:45:22 on Sat, 17 Mar 2012, remarked:
There's buses in Nottingham with "up to every 8 minutes" written on
them. Which defies parsing.

Similarly the Cambridge Park and Ride buses with "up to every 10
minutes".

There's a "glass half full/half empty" issue with these claims.

I read them as "you'll always have to wait at least 10 minutes for a
bus", and it says nothing about how many tph they are offering (the
gullible assume it's 6tph of course).

The Mon-Fri P&R service is 6 buses per hour from the first bus until 18:00
and every 20 minutes thereafter until end of service at about 20:00. That in
detail is the 99 (Green, Milton P&R to Babraham Road) but others are similar.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Jarle H Knudsen wrote:
However, the timetable at http://www.oxfordtube.com/tubetimes.php shows a
much lower frequency, at times a low as hourly.

The silliest bit is where they have a big red box with the words
'Every 60 mins until', when they could have just put '0210'!

--
Neil Sunderland
Braunton, Devon

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In uk.transport.london Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 08:23:01 on Sat, 17 Mar
2012, Robin remarked:
The home page http://www.oxfordtube.com/index.php actually has ""With
buses **from** every 10 minutes, 24 hours a day ......" (emphasis
added).

There's buses in Nottingham with "up to every 8 minutes" written on
them. Which defies parsing.

http://xkcd.com/870/

Theo

In article ,
() wrote:

In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

In message , at
06:45:22 on Sat, 17 Mar 2012, remarked:
There's buses in Nottingham with "up to every 8 minutes" written on
them. Which defies parsing.

Similarly the Cambridge Park and Ride buses with "up to every 10
minutes".

There's a "glass half full/half empty" issue with these claims.

I read them as "you'll always have to wait at least 10 minutes for
a bus", and it says nothing about how many tph they are offering
(the gullible assume it's 6tph of course).

The Mon-Fri P&R service is 6 buses per hour from the first bus until
18:00 and every 20 minutes thereafter until end of service at about
20:00. That in detail is the 99 (Green, Milton P&R to Babraham Road)
but others are similar.

But I noticed today that a Citi 1 bus stop in Campkin Road had a more
precise formula: "buses to city centre *every 10 minutes* Mon-Sat daytimes".

Mind you its Real Time Information screen told me at 14:43 there were Citi 1
buses to Cherry Hinton "DUE", "2 min" and "14:45". I didn't see any bus
while I was nearby.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Mar 17, 1:24*pm, "Robin" wrote:
No, it doesn't. (And they call them coaches, not buses.) It says what
Jarle quoted above.

Pl see the reply to JHK just posted.

My apologies Robin - it didn't even cross my mind that there'd be
separate flash and non-flash versions of the page, let alone the text
on each being different.

My apologies Robin - it didn't even cross my mind that there'd be
separate flash and non-flash versions of the page, let alone the text
on each being different.

No, no no .....*I'm* the one who should have apologised, both for having
forgotten my browser was set to "paranopid" and for doubting JHK - a man
of exceedingly high standards judging by how far he travels for his
beers
--
Robin
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