On 21 Mai, 18:12, "Paul Scott" wrote:

AFAIAA they are going to convert P12/P13 into a full length platform, but I
haven't seen it in anything official yet. *With P14 then ending up as the
only short platform. *As you suggest, with most of the relief service
diverted to Crossrail, and the Greenfords removed, and electrification
allowing for EMUs (probably in multiple so 8 car) covering the remaining
semi-fast services, there is hardly any practical advantage to the OP's
proposal.

Paul S


What is happening to the Greenfords? Are these also using Crossrail?
What terminating seices (if any) are likely to remain that use the
relief lines?

On another note, where precisely will Crosrail join the GWML? On the
relief line side or on the main?

On Jun 11, 3:24*pm, amogles wrote:
On 21 Mai, 18:12, "Paul Scott" wrote:



AFAIAA they are going to convert P12/P13 into a full length platform, but I
haven't seen it in anything official yet. *With P14 then ending up as the
only short platform. *As you suggest, with most of the relief service
diverted to Crossrail, and the Greenfords removed, and electrification
allowing for EMUs (probably in multiple so 8 car) covering the remaining
semi-fast services, there is hardly any practical advantage to the OP's
proposal.

Paul S

What is happening to the Greenfords? Are these also using Crossrail?
What terminating seices (if any) are likely to remain that use the
relief lines?

On another note, where precisely will Crosrail join the GWML? On the
relief line side or on the main?

On the relief side, utilizing a flat junction. My best guess is that
it will be somewhat west of Royal Oak station. But that is based on
the hoardings there at the moment.

On Jun 11, 3:24*pm, amogles wrote:
On 21 Mai, 18:12, "Paul Scott" wrote:



AFAIAA they are going to convert P12/P13 into a full length platform, but I
haven't seen it in anything official yet. *With P14 then ending up as the
only short platform. *As you suggest, with most of the relief service
diverted to Crossrail, and the Greenfords removed, and electrification
allowing for EMUs (probably in multiple so 8 car) covering the remaining
semi-fast services, there is hardly any practical advantage to the OP's
proposal.

Paul S

What is happening to the Greenfords? Are these also using Crossrail?
What terminating seices (if any) are likely to remain that use the
relief lines?

AFIK, the Greenford trains will no longer run thru to Paddington.

"77002" wrote

AFIK, the Greenford trains will no longer run thru to Paddington.

The proposal is for the Greenfords to run as a Greenford - West Ealing
shuttle, using a new Bay at West Ealing, and not conflicting with the Relief
Lines at all.

One missing link is Willesden Junction to Ealing Broadway - is there a case
for extending Barking to Gospel Oak trains to Greenford?

Peter

On Jun 11, 6:15*pm, "Peter Masson" wrote:
"77002" wrote



AFIK, the Greenford trains will no longer run thru to Paddington.

The proposal is for the Greenfords to run as a Greenford - West Ealing
shuttle, using a new Bay at West Ealing, and not conflicting with the Relief
Lines at all.

One missing link is Willesden Junction to Ealing Broadway - is there a case
for extending Barking to Gospel Oak trains to Greenford?

It is a neat idea Peter. However, I think paths thru Ealing Broadway
will be hard to find post Crossrail. Since demand for such a service
is unknown, it is difficult to make a case for it.

It had occurred to that one way to provide a thru service to somewhere
from the Greenford branch would be to electrify it, with the third and
fourth rail, and extend a Central Line service from Greenford to West
Ealing. However, that would raise all sorts of issues concerning
platforms lengths, signalling, etc. Moreover the branch is utilized
for diversions during engineering work.