Dave Jackson wrote:
I'm surprised that he hasn't made a contribution to the Merseyrail
discussion, since he was involved in the construction/design of the loop
line, IIRC.


While still unqualified, I worked on the Loop Line project for a
summer vacation in a menial role. I was based at Moorfields so my
knowledge of what happened at Central is minimal and gained mostly
from reading "Modern Railways" four decades ago.

I have little or nothing to add to what has already been said. Without
looking at as-built drawings of the Loop Line at Central or visiting
the site, it would be impossible for me (or anyone else without
personal knowledge) to verify any of the claims of pre-existing
tunnels, platforms etc. which have been made here.

But to cheer everyone up, here's a link to an image of the Loop Line
platform and a train at Liverpool Central:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:50...oolCent-01.jpg

Just to throw a spanner in the works, the following web page suggests
that the original Liverpool Central Low level station that previously
served as the terminus of the Mersey Railway was actually re-used for
the Link Line, which is now known as the Northern Line despite serving
much of South Liverpool. Now I'm really confused!
http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/l...l/index2.shtml

Bruce wrote:

Just to throw a spanner in the works, the following web page suggests
that the original Liverpool Central Low level station that previously
served as the terminus of the Mersey Railway was actually re-used for
the Link Line, which is now known as the Northern Line despite serving
much of South Liverpool. Now I'm really confused!
http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/l...l/index2.shtml

This is correct. It serves much more of north Liverpool than it does south
Liverpool.

Neil
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Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK. Put first name before the at to reply.

Neil Williams wrote:

Bruce wrote:

Just to throw a spanner in the works, the following web page suggests
that the original Liverpool Central Low level station that previously
served as the terminus of the Mersey Railway was actually re-used for
the Link Line, which is now known as the Northern Line despite serving
much of South Liverpool. Now I'm really confused!
http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/l...l/index2.shtml

This is correct. It serves much more of north Liverpool than it does south
Liverpool.


Speaking as someone who was brought up in South Liverpool, I expected
a line serving my area to be named after it, not after some remote
parts of rural Lancashire that I had no interest in at all. ;-)

Bruce wrote:

Speaking as someone who was brought up in South Liverpool, I expected
a line serving my area to be named after it, not after some remote
parts of rural Lancashire that I had no interest in at all. ;-)

Cross City Line might have been a better term, though that would have
clashed with the City Line, or even Crossrail? Or we could go London style
and call it the "Huntskirkportby line"

Neil
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Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK. Put first name before the at to reply.

Neil Williams wrote:

Bruce wrote:

Speaking as someone who was brought up in South Liverpool, I expected
a line serving my area to be named after it, not after some remote
parts of rural Lancashire that I had no interest in at all. ;-)

Cross City Line might have been a better term, though that would have
clashed with the City Line, or even Crossrail? Or we could go London style
and call it the "Huntskirkportby line"


Loop Line, Link Line and City Line all seemed fine to me. Then some
fancypants came along, probably someone from London, and wanted one to
be the Northern Line.

Should have been given a lashing and sent back south. ;-)

In message , Bruce
writes
Loop Line, Link Line and City Line all seemed fine to me. Then some
fancypants came along, probably someone from London, and wanted one to
be the Northern Line.
Should have been given a lashing and sent back south. ;-)
The Northern line in London goes the furthest south.
--
Clive

On 06/06/2012 20:04, Bruce wrote:
While still unqualified, I worked on the Loop Line project for a
summer vacation in a menial role. I was based at Moorfields so my
knowledge of what happened at Central is minimal and gained mostly
from reading "Modern Railways" four decades ago.

I used Central LL regularly in the 60s (work in Liverpool, girlfriend in
Bromborough), and remember it as a rather dirty depressing place. Trains
came up from the tunnel under the Mersey, dropped off their passengers,
ran forward into the reversing sidings (2, IIRC, one often containing a
spare unit), and then emerged into the dim light of the Birkenhead-bound
platform.

--
Dave,
Frodsham
http://s1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc461/Davy41/

Dave Jackson wrote:
I used Central LL regularly in the 60s (work in Liverpool, girlfriend in
Bromborough), and remember it as a rather dirty depressing place. Trains
came up from the tunnel under the Mersey, dropped off their passengers,
ran forward into the reversing sidings (2, IIRC, one often containing a
spare unit), and then emerged into the dim light of the Birkenhead-bound
platform.


I worked in Liverpool, lived in South Liverpool and - what a
coincidence - also had a girlfriend in Bromborough. It was the 1970s,
though. Obviously not the same girl. ;-)

I used to travel by motorcycle and was pleased when the new (Wallasey)
Kingsway tunnel opened in 1971 together with the M53, as it made my
journey to Bromborough much faster than via Queensway (old tunnel) and
the A41.

Ironic that I now live just off the A41, but a lot further south.

I was a frequent user of Liverpool Central High Level until it closed
for construction of the Loop and Link lines. It was all-DMU in those
days and the formerly grand station looked rather forlorn. But what
replaced it was even worse. New, yes, but still worse.

On 06/06/2012 23:29, Bruce wrote:
I worked in Liverpool, lived in South Liverpool and - what a
coincidence - also had a girlfriend in Bromborough. It was the 1970s,
though. Obviously not the same girl.;-)

Might have been the same girl - I was married to somebody else in the
early 70s. I hated taking my bike through the Queensway tunnel, but in
those days you could take it on the ferry - although you had to push it
(rather than ride it) on the landing stages.

--
Dave,
Frodsham
http://s1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc461/Davy41/

Dave Jackson wrote:
On 06/06/2012 23:29, Bruce wrote:
I worked in Liverpool, lived in South Liverpool and - what a
coincidence - also had a girlfriend in Bromborough. It was the 1970s,
though. Obviously not the same girl.;-)

Might have been the same girl - I was married to somebody else in the
early 70s. I hated taking my bike through the Queensway tunnel, but in
those days you could take it on the ferry - although you had to push it
(rather than ride it) on the landing stages.


I'm not sure the ferries ran in the early hours when I was returning
from Bromborough. Even though the Kingsway/M53 route was much further
it was faster because of motorway speeds. I didn't want to waste a
moment ... ;-)