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TfL To Remove Roadside Ticket Machines For Buses
"Graham Harrison" wrote:
In this country you're probably right. In others, however, I've seen quite a few trains where the driver collects the fare. In Germany on rural lines they nominally can, but it's more that they note you've been to speak to them and tell any inspector not to issue a penalty fare, rather than actually selling a ticket. Neil -- Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK. Put first name before the at to reply. |
TfL To Remove Roadside Ticket Machines For Buses
wrote in message ... On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:57:28 +0100 "Graham Harrison" wrote: a few trains where the driver collects the fare. Which country is this? I've travelled a bit and I've seen tram drivers collect fairs but never a train driver. B2003 Most recently, Japan. Does he walk down the train or do you just board through the front door? I presume this is some local service and not the bullet train! B2003 It was a single car (bit like a 153 in the UK or RDC in the USA but probably lighter than either). Board at the front and pay. On a "level 3" (JR being 1 and the major independents like Kintetsu 2) railway in the Aso caldera on Kyushu (picture here http://goo.gl/maps/hyx4b ). I've seen it somewhere in Europe but I can't remember where. It may have been Denmark |
TfL To Remove Roadside Ticket Machines For Buses
On 13/09/2012 12:05, Paul wrote:
Just noticed this on the TfL website https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/bus...d/consult_view Reason given is that very few (approx 1%) of bus journeys involve a cash fare. Have to say that my experience of these machines is that they cause confusion for tourists, and often delays as the driver waits for someone to get off the bus, fiddle around and buy a ticket, and then get back on. I have seen many a bus driver close the doors and drive off when some yup gets off the bus to buy a ticket and insist that the driver wait. Most regular travellers will have a travelcard or Oyster PAYG, as will some visitors, but there will always be a need for some people to pay by cash. I suppose it makes sense to remove the machines as it will cut costs for staff or contractors to go to each of these machines, carry out maintenance and effect any needed repairs. Coin transport costs are also not cheap, AIUI. |
TfL To Remove Roadside Ticket Machines For Buses
On 13/09/2012 13:29, Neil Williams wrote:
wrote: And I guess you've never seen the fuss when someones Oyster card doesn't work and they stand there for 5 mins arguing with the driver? Which is one issue that the current policy causes, and a return to allowing cash fares will solve, particularly where a group is travelling and the last one to board has a card problem. Neil It always seems to happen in the morning when some woman has to fumble through her purse looking for an Oystercard, and then starts yelling at the driver when he says that he needs to drive off. |
TfL To Remove Roadside Ticket Machines For Buses
On 13/09/2012 13:51, Graham Harrison wrote:
No one would think a train driver collecting fares is a good idea but for some reason the idea a bus driver should do it passes unremarked. In this country you're probably right. In others, however, I've seen quite a few trains where the driver collects the fare. Tram drivers will do it many cities around Europe. I have also seen drivers on the Warsaw Commuter Railway sell tickets. |
TfL To Remove Roadside Ticket Machines For Buses
" wrote:
It always seems to happen in the morning when some woman has to fumble through her purse looking for an Oystercard, and then starts yelling at the driver when he says that he needs to drive off. Sounds like the sort of people who get taken aback when they are asked to pay for their shopping at a supermarket having packed it all, then spend half an hour finding their cash or card to do so. Here's an idea for those people - there is a handy little shelf above the scanning thingy. Put your card/purse/wallet on there ready before starting to pack and we won't all have to wait for you to faff. (The lack of tolerance for such faffing is one of the benefits of shopping at Aldi etc...) As for the bus, if the driver can take cash, the bus can start moving while the faffing takes place. Neil -- Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK. Put first name before the at to reply. |
TfL To Remove Roadside Ticket Machines For Buses
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TfL To Remove Roadside Ticket Machines For Buses
Someone Somewhere wrote:
Wow - such vitriole over a policy that was developed to speed up services in London for those of us who live there! It's not like having an Oyster card is that much of a hardship, and nor is it like the credit on it expires if unused. It may not expire but I've never been able to transfer credit from one card to another. When the discount cards have to be renewed each year you often find either credit being wasted on old cards or a pain when one miscalculates when cancelling the auto-top-up and finds the balancing running out in the middle of the night. -- My blog: http://adf.ly/4hi4c |
TfL To Remove Roadside Ticket Machines For Buses
On 13/09/2012 23:32, Tim Roll-Pickering wrote:
wrote: I suppose it makes sense to remove the machines as it will cut costs for staff or contractors to go to each of these machines, carry out maintenance and effect any needed repairs. Coin transport costs are also not cheap, AIUI. For presumably those reasons they've been withdrawn from stops outside the cashless zone when the buses were debendified. One of the harshest memories from when they were first brought in was when machines broke down and drivers refused to take would-be passengers who said this. A particular bad one involved a mother with a pushchair. The driver should have just waved the mother on board in that case, at least as a one-off. The others could have gone to the newsagent and bought tickets or topped up their Oysters. |
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