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Free Tube station WiFi extended until "early 2013"
http://my.virginmedia.com/wifi/index.html
"Until early 2013 we're giving everyone full internet access. After that, full internet access will be available to customers of Virgin Media and selected networks, as well as on a Pay As You Go basis." |
Free Tube station WiFi extended until "early 2013"
On 24/10/2012 18:06, Mizter T wrote:
http://my.virginmedia.com/wifi/index.html "Until early 2013 we're giving everyone full internet access. After that, full internet access will be available to customers of Virgin Media and selected networks, as well as on a Pay As You Go basis." Maybe Boris should use some of that Olympic underspend to keep it permanently free. That's a legacy that would benefit far more Londoners than a new park and housing development in Stratford. |
Free Tube station WiFi extended until "early 2013"
In message , at 18:06:34 on Wed, 24 Oct
2012, Mizter T remarked: "Until early 2013 we're giving everyone full internet access. After that, full internet access will be available to customers of Virgin Media and selected networks, as well as on a Pay As You Go basis." I've got an Android Phone that'll take a Virgin SIM, does that mean this wifi would be free for me? On the way to London today, will try out the free wifi for the first time. -- Roland Perry |
Free Tube station WiFi extended until "early 2013"
In message , at 11:43:20 on
Thu, 25 Oct 2012, Paul Corfield remarked: "Until early 2013 we're giving everyone full internet access. After that, full internet access will be available to customers of Virgin Media and selected networks, as well as on a Pay As You Go basis." I've got an Android Phone that'll take a Virgin SIM, does that mean this wifi would be free for me? On the way to London today, will try out the free wifi for the first time. It is free for everybody at the moment regardless of network. I was asking about post early 2013. I have a Virgin PAYG phone but have only managed minimal usage of the tube wi-fi - principally because I have not had minutes to wait for a train and my local station is not yet equipped. Trying to log on from a train while it pauses at a station is just about impossible as the dwelll time is too short. What are you trying to log into? I'd hope something like a Twitter or Facebook account could grab a useful amount of information in just a few seconds. When the scheme launched the only Virgin customers indentified for future free access were those who take a Virgin Media broadband / TV *and* phone service. People like me on PAYG would continue to pay which I find a tad pathetic. I was not terribly happy that as a Virgin customer for years I get no apparent "benefit" from this wi-fi scheme. The reason why most operators are rolling out free-wifi is to get low priority traffic off their GSM/3G networks, which they can't build out fast enough to cope with the demand. But if they are providing wifi in places without GSM/3G coverage, then that business model looks less attractive, but could be justified as a way to get people used to wifi at all. -- Roland Perry |
Free Tube station WiFi extended until "early 2013"
On 2012\10\25 07:54, Roland Perry wrote:
I've got an Android Phone that'll take a Virgin SIM An android taking a virgin, now that I'd like to see. |
Free Tube station WiFi extended until "early 2013"
On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:34:13 +0100
Roland Perry wrote: What are you trying to log into? I'd hope something like a Twitter or Facebook account could grab a useful amount of information in just a few seconds. I've never seen anything approximating information on either of those "services", much less grabbed a useful amount from them. B2003 |
Free Tube station WiFi extended until "early 2013"
In message , at 12:42:49 on Thu, 25 Oct
2012, d remarked: What are you trying to log into? I'd hope something like a Twitter or Facebook account could grab a useful amount of information in just a few seconds. I've never seen anything approximating information on either of those "services", much less grabbed a useful amount from them. Then you aren't looking very carefully. Twitter feeds from ToCs are an obvious example. -- Roland Perry |
Free Tube station WiFi extended until "early 2013"
In message , at 12:34:13 on Thu, 25 Oct
2012, Roland Perry remarked: I have a Virgin PAYG phone but have only managed minimal usage of the tube wi-fi - principally because I have not had minutes to wait for a train and my local station is not yet equipped. Trying to log on from a train while it pauses at a station is just about impossible as the dwelll time is too short. What are you trying to log into? I'd hope something like a Twitter or Facebook account could grab a useful amount of information in just a few seconds. I gave this the "mystery shopper" treatment at Westminster and all stations to Kings Cross (via Victoria). Despite claiming to be logged into the Virgin hotspots all the way at stations, I didn't manage to send/receive any traffic at all. Not even Skype, which usually connects itself up with a couple of seconds of seeing connectivity. So this initiative gets a resounding "NUL POINTS" from me (which seems to echo your own experience). -- Roland Perry |
Free Tube station WiFi extended until "early 2013"
On 25/10/2012 17:54, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 12:34:13 on Thu, 25 Oct 2012, Roland Perry remarked: I have a Virgin PAYG phone but have only managed minimal usage of the tube wi-fi - principally because I have not had minutes to wait for a train and my local station is not yet equipped. Trying to log on from a train while it pauses at a station is just about impossible as the dwelll time is too short. What are you trying to log into? I'd hope something like a Twitter or Facebook account could grab a useful amount of information in just a few seconds. I gave this the "mystery shopper" treatment at Westminster and all stations to Kings Cross (via Victoria). Despite claiming to be logged into the Virgin hotspots all the way at stations, I didn't manage to send/receive any traffic at all. Not even Skype, which usually connects itself up with a couple of seconds of seeing connectivity. So this initiative gets a resounding "NUL POINTS" from me (which seems to echo your own experience). I tried it on the way home from Baker St to Waterloo this evening. My phone has already been set up to auto-connect to the Virgin Wi-fi and as soon as the train pulled into Embankment I was able to connect, sign in, and look up the platform of my mainline train from Waterloo using the National Rail app (very handy when time is tight). I'm sure I could've downloaded a few e-mails or sent a tweet/updated Facebook in the same timespan. What is annoying is that you have to go to the Virgin Media wi-fi landing page before it'll send any other traffic, even if you were just using the wi-fi at the next station along! I do hope that when it goes to 'service information only', this will still allow the various National Rail apps to use it. |
Free Tube station WiFi extended until "early 2013"
In message , at 00:52:40 on Fri, 26
Oct 2012, Spyke remarked: What is annoying is that you have to go to the Virgin Media wi-fi landing page before it'll send any other traffic, even if you were just using the wi-fi at the next station along! That might be the problem - none of the Android apps I was using sent me to a "landing page", so the whole exercise seems completely broken. -- Roland Perry |
Free Tube station WiFi extended until "early 2013"
That might be the problem - none of the Android apps I was using sent
me to a "landing page", so the whole exercise seems completely broken. I don't know what "the whole exercise" means but my ancient Nokia phone has connected happily since WiFi was launched so the infrastucture seems to be working. What browser(s) did you use to try to connect? -- Robin reply to address is (meant to be) valid |
Free Tube station WiFi extended until "early 2013"
In message , at 08:41:17 on Fri, 26 Oct
2012, Robin remarked: That might be the problem - none of the Android apps I was using sent me to a "landing page", so the whole exercise seems completely broken. I don't know what "the whole exercise" means but my ancient Nokia phone has connected happily since WiFi was launched so the infrastucture seems to be working. What browser(s) did you use to try to connect? I don't use a browser on my Android phone, the connectivity is required by apps (like Facebook, Twitter, Skype, Journey Planners etc) which are all free-standing. -- Roland Perry |
Free Tube station WiFi extended until "early 2013"
I don't know what "the whole exercise" means but my ancient Nokia
phone has connected happily since WiFi was launched so the infrastucture seems to be working. What browser(s) did you use to try to connect? I don't use a browser on my Android phone, the connectivity is required by apps (like Facebook, Twitter, Skype, Journey Planners etc) which are all free-standing. It appears you did not RTFM. Quelle surprise. http://my.virginmedia.com/wifi/using...tml#how-to-get I appreciate that you may think that the service should not require you to use a browser but I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to make the rules as it's their system. It is also by no means the only "free" wi-fi service I have used which requires a browser page first. -- Robin reply to address is (meant to be) valid |
Free Tube station WiFi extended until "early 2013"
On 26/10/2012 10:23, Robin wrote: I don't know what "the whole exercise" means but my ancient Nokia phone has connected happily since WiFi was launched so the infrastucture seems to be working. What browser(s) did you use to try to connect? I don't use a browser on my Android phone, the connectivity is required by apps (like Facebook, Twitter, Skype, Journey Planners etc) which are all free-standing. It appears you did not RTFM. Quelle surprise. http://my.virginmedia.com/wifi/using...tml#how-to-get I appreciate that you may think that the service should not require you to use a browser but I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to make the rules as it's their system. It is also by no means the only "free" wi-fi service I have used which requires a browser page first. Indeed. |
Free Tube station WiFi extended until "early 2013"
Mizter T wrote:
I appreciate that you may think that the service should not require you to use a browser but I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to make the rules as it's their system. It is also by no means the only "free" wi-fi service I have used which requires a browser page first. Indeed. This will however put me off using it. There must be a more practical approach to this that means you don't have to log in each time. Neil -- Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK. Put first name before the at to reply. |
Free Tube station WiFi extended until "early 2013"
We were about to embark at Dover, when ()
came up to me and whispered: I'm puzzled how Roland ever connects to wifi. Most seems to need a browser. I connect to several different wi-fi services when out and about - my phone WIFI software knows how to be a "browser" without any involvement from me, and just clicks into the service that's available, even if a Username and Password is needed. -- Paul Cummins - Always a NetHead Wasting Bandwidth since 1981 IF you think this http://bit.ly/u5EP3p is cruel please sign this http://bit.ly/sKkzEx ---- If it's below this line, I didn't write it ---- |
Free Tube station WiFi extended until "early 2013"
Neil Williams wrote:
Mizter T wrote: I appreciate that you may think that the service should not require you to use a browser but I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to make the rules as it's their system. It is also by no means the only "free" wi-fi service I have used which requires a browser page first. Indeed. This will however put me off using it. There must be a more practical approach to this that means you don't have to log in each time. There is a way around it if you install a second browser on your phone. I use Firefox and the default (Android) browser on my HTC. I use the Android browser to log in and Firefox to surf. When I get to a station it is a simple matter of clicking "Back" in the default browser and then "Refresh". You can click "Back" just before entering the station to give more browsing time.. |
Free Tube station WiFi extended until "early 2013"
I have noticed that the signal stays at four bars when one sits in the
carriage; it goes down to three bars in the tunnel, then dwindles fairly slowly down to zero. Perhaps if one got on at Leicester Square and alighted at Covent Garden the signal would be continuous. |
Free Tube station WiFi extended until "early 2013"
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Free Tube station WiFi extended until "early 2013"
In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote: In message , at 06:35:20 on Fri, 26 Oct 2012, remarked: I'm puzzled how Roland ever connects to wifi. Most seems to need a browser. I go to my phone's Wifi settings ("set up and manage wireless access points") and select the requisite SSID. If it needs a WEP/WPA etc, then that's remembered for next time. Sat here at home I can see on my phone: Two of my own hotspots BTOpenzone - remembered[1] BTHomeHub-blah - secured with WEP x3 at least Virginmedia-blah - secured with WPA/WPA2 x3 at least BTHomeHub2-blah - secured with WPA/WPA2 BTHub3-blah - secured with WPA/WPA2 Sky-blah - secured with WPA/WPA2 Netgear-blah - secured with WPA/WPA2 BOH Office - secured with WPA/WPA2 TALKTALK-blah - secured with WPA/WPA2 AutoBTwifi - EAP BTwifi-with-FON - open BTOpenzone-H - open BTWifi - open BZH - secured with WPA/WPA2 8WFC - secured with WPA/WPA2 Mr.Router! - secured with WPA/WPA2 RS_001 - secured with WEP EnGenius - secured with WPA/WPA2 It's a bit busy out there! [1] I don't know they still have one, but last time I used my BTOpenzone account regularly about three years ago there was a gadget for my Windows PC which logged you in automatically (and also had a list of their International roaming hotspots). And for open systems that control access through a browser like East Coast? -- Colin Rosenstiel |
Free Tube station WiFi extended until "early 2013"
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Free Tube station WiFi extended until "early 2013"
Roland Perry wrote:
I gave this the "mystery shopper" treatment at Westminster and all stations to Kings Cross (via Victoria). Saturday: Finsbury Park to Vauxhall, Victoria line FP: no signal KX-Victoria, in stations: connected to wifi, but VM landing page said 'something went wrong, make sure cookies are enabled on your phone'. Didn't do anything else (needless to say, they were enabled) Can't remember if there was any signal south of Victoria. Sunday: Waterloo Bakerloo corridor: no signal Northern line Waterloo northbound platform: successfully received login page, signed up, no problems, could see Google Waterloo-Tottenham Court Road, Northern Line stations: Connected OK, but couldn't connect to websites Tottenham Court Road to Bank, Central Line. Worked fine in stations. So not quite 'nul points', but not terribly useful. On Android the time from emerging from the tunnel to rescanning and connecting is about 70% of the dwell time in the station - you have about 15-20s of doors closing and pulling out of the station before the signal goes again. When it worked it was enough to check train times (with a pre-entered URL - eg traintimes.org.uk/kgx/edb ) but not much that requires interaction. Theo |
Free Tube station WiFi extended until "early 2013"
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 12:52:40AM +0100, Spyke wrote:
What is annoying is that you have to go to the Virgin Media wi-fi landing page before it'll send any other traffic, even if you were just using the wi-fi at the next station along! Dunno about you, but *I* don't have to do that. Their page seems to pop up randomly once every several days. -- David Cantrell | Minister for Arbitrary Justice You know you're getting old when you fancy the teenager's parent and ignore the teenager -- Paul M in uknot |
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