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What did they use to fill in the old shoreditch cutting? They didn't dig
any new tunnels on the ELL so the earth couldn't have come from there.
Was it from crossrail or did they not actually fill it in but just roofed
it over and put a thin layer of dirt on top?

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What did they use to fill in the old shoreditch cutting? They didn't dig
any new tunnels on the ELL so the earth couldn't have come from there.
Was it from crossrail or did they not actually fill it in but just roofed
it over and put a thin layer of dirt on top?


Crossrail hadn't started digging anywhere when it was being filled surely?

But it is definitely filled in nearly as far as the old station building
with compacted earth and rubble, the ramped track bed rising up to the
GEML bridge is in or over the cutting for much of its length.

Perhaps they used spoil from the Bishopsgate goods yard site which was being
demolished at the time to make room for the new Shoreditch High St station
to be built?

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On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 16:24:51 -0000
"Paul Scott" wrote:
But it is definitely filled in nearly as far as the old station building
with compacted earth and rubble, the ramped track bed rising up to the
GEML bridge is in or over the cutting for much of its length.

Perhaps they used spoil from the Bishopsgate goods yard site which was being
demolished at the time to make room for the new Shoreditch High St station
to be built?


That could be part of it , but I doubt that building would have been enough
for the entire cutting. Hopefully they didn't use landfill. It seems an
awful lot of effort to go to just to add a few square metres of grass in a
park. I wonder why they didn't just leave it perhaps to be used as sidings
for the liverpool street lines in the future?

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On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 16:24:51 -0000
"Paul Scott" wrote:
But it is definitely filled in nearly as far as the old station building
with compacted earth and rubble, the ramped track bed rising up to the
GEML bridge is in or over the cutting for much of its length.

Perhaps they used spoil from the Bishopsgate goods yard site which was being
demolished at the time to make room for the new Shoreditch High St station
to be built?


That could be part of it , but I doubt that building would have been enough
for the entire cutting. Hopefully they didn't use landfill. It seems an
awful lot of effort to go to just to add a few square metres of grass in a
park. I wonder why they didn't just leave it perhaps to be used as sidings
for the liverpool street lines in the future?


You can make more money by using your land as a hardcore/soil infill
site than for virtually any other use.
£50/ton is typical, so a lorry load is £500+.
If the NR/BR Land Agents were on the ball, they would have done this,
and made a good profit on it.
A building contractor would love such a site - close by to central
London, cheaper than a commercial tip, thus gaining them time and money.
Planning restrictions are much lighter too, there would be virtually no
chance of using it for rubbish/landfill, but filling with soil is
usually allowed with certain restrictions.



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I wonder if they demolished all the station paraphenalia first or just
entombed the lot. Will the 23rd century edition of Time Team be unearthing
the platforms perhaps?


Google maps satellite view shows exactly where the boundary is between what
they've buried and the old station: http://goo.gl/maps/Po6hy

The last photo on the 'disused stations' web page for Shoreditch underground
suggests some platform structures are still there under the fill material,
wherever it came from:

http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/s...el/index.shtml

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I wonder if they demolished all the station paraphenalia first or just
entombed the lot. Will the 23rd century edition of Time Team be unearthing
the platforms perhaps?


Google maps satellite view shows exactly where the boundary is between what
they've buried and the old station: http://goo.gl/maps/Po6hy


That looks like a lot of weight now pushing out on the retaining walls over
the liverpool street lines. I wonder if thats a good idea long term?

B2003




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