Witnessed a new S7 stock in service terminate in the bay platform at
Barking yesterday evening, approx 22:30, seems they are finally
accepted to run the entire H&C line as opposed to just the interim
Hammersith - Moorgate shuttle.

Lots of oohs and aahs from the station staff and fellow pax - a
District driver was very impressed and said he can't wait until he
gets his go on one.

Made me notice that once the D78s on the District are replaced
everything through Barking will be exclusivly of Bombardier erection;
c2c 357s, LO 172s and LU S stock.

On Wed, 9 Jan 2013 08:40:25 -0800 (PST)
P160AC1 wrote:
Made me notice that once the D78s on the District are replaced

Personally I think someone needs to open an enquiry over the money spent on
the recent refurb of the D stock given how much it cost and how little
value LU are going to get from it given that they're all going to go for
scrap in a few years. We all know how TfL love wasting money while claiming
poverty , but this really does take the ****.

B2003

wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jan 2013 08:40:25 -0800 (PST)
P160AC1 wrote:
Made me notice that once the D78s on the District are replaced

Personally I think someone needs to open an enquiry over the money spent on
the recent refurb of the D stock given how much it cost and how little
value LU are going to get from it given that they're all going to go for
scrap in a few years. We all know how TfL love wasting money while claiming
poverty , but this really does take the ****.

'Recent' refurb? It was quite a few years ago, and the D stock will be the
last to be replaced by the S stock.

On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 04:43:41 -0600
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jan 2013 08:40:25 -0800 (PST)
P160AC1 wrote:
Made me notice that once the D78s on the District are replaced

Personally I think someone needs to open an enquiry over the money spent on
the recent refurb of the D stock given how much it cost and how little
value LU are going to get from it given that they're all going to go for
scrap in a few years. We all know how TfL love wasting money while claiming
poverty , but this really does take the ****.

'Recent' refurb? It was quite a few years ago, and the D stock will be the
last to be replaced by the S stock.

Not that many. 6 or 7? In the lifetime of a train thats nothing.

B2003

In article ,
[D Stock referb]
Not that many. 6 or 7? In the lifetime of a train thats nothing.

It started in 2005; the trains will start to be withdrawn in 2015
IIRC, so it was at around the 2/3rds mark of the stocks life, and
will be in service for a decade.

Doesn't sound unreasonable to me.

--
Mike Bristow

Mike Bristow wrote:
In article ,
[D Stock referb]
Not that many. 6 or 7? In the lifetime of a train thats nothing.

It started in 2005; the trains will start to be withdrawn in 2015
IIRC, so it was at around the 2/3rds mark of the stocks life, and
will be in service for a decade.

Doesn't sound unreasonable to me.

Also, wasn't the D stock upgrade a relatively light one? They cut new
windows in the car ends, and replaced some surface materials, but the seats
stayed largely the same. And some work was certainly needed by then: the
trains were 25 years old, and looked it. They'll be around 35 years old
when they start to go, which is a respectable life, though not in the same
league as the venerable A stock.

"Recliner" wrote in message
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wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jan 2013 08:40:25 -0800 (PST)
P160AC1 wrote:
Made me notice that once the D78s on the District are replaced

Personally I think someone needs to open an enquiry over the money spent
on
the recent refurb of the D stock given how much it cost and how little
value LU are going to get from it given that they're all going to go for
scrap in a few years. We all know how TfL love wasting money while
claiming
poverty , but this really does take the ****.

'Recent' refurb? It was quite a few years ago, and the D stock will be
the
last to be replaced by the S stock.

They were refurbished between summer 2005 and February 2008. So they'll
barely get a decade of use from the refurbs.

John

On 10/01/2013 10:43, Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jan 2013 08:40:25 -0800 (PST)
P160AC1 wrote:
Made me notice that once the D78s on the District are replaced

Personally I think someone needs to open an enquiry over the money spent on
the recent refurb of the D stock given how much it cost and how little
value LU are going to get from it given that they're all going to go for
scrap in a few years. We all know how TfL love wasting money while claiming
poverty , but this really does take the ****.

'Recent' refurb? It was quite a few years ago, and the D stock will be the
last to be replaced by the S stock.


Five to seven years ago is not so long, in relative terms.

I managed to see a westbound S7 at Mile End today. It seemed that the
headlights were a little less intense than the S8s'. I also noticed that
some of the car numbers, had a large blue dot next to them: What does
that mean?

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On 10/01/2013 09:43, d wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jan 2013 08:40:25 -0800 (PST)
P160AC1 wrote:
Made me notice that once the D78s on the District are replaced

Personally I think someone needs to open an enquiry over the money spent on
the recent refurb of the D stock given how much it cost and how little
value LU are going to get from it given that they're all going to go for
scrap in a few years. We all know how TfL love wasting money while claiming
poverty , but this really does take the ****.


Can't they find another job for the D78s, somewhere? I know that they
Island Line is out as an option, but what about some small branch line
somewhere up in the Midlands?



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" wrote:
On 10/01/2013 09:43, d wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jan 2013 08:40:25 -0800 (PST)
P160AC1 wrote:
Made me notice that once the D78s on the District are replaced

Personally I think someone needs to open an enquiry over the money spent on
the recent refurb of the D stock given how much it cost and how little
value LU are going to get from it given that they're all going to go for
scrap in a few years. We all know how TfL love wasting money while claiming
poverty , but this really does take the ****.


Can't they find another job for the D78s, somewhere? I know that they
Island Line is out as an option, but what about some small branch line
somewhere up in the Midlands?

Well, there was a short-lived proposal to use them on the Harrogate line,
but the idea of installing fourth (or even third) rail electrification
would probably kill most plans. After all, they'll be about 35 years old
when LU gets rid of them, and probably in need of another refurbishment
before they could be used elsewhere.