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Arriving at Stansted Airport, suppose I'll take the Stansted
Express/Skytrain to Liverpool Street Station.

To go to Barking, may I be dropped along the route or I must go first
at Liverpool Str Station, then from there take the tube?

For instance, dropping at Tottenham Hale allow me to reach Barking
easily?

Or exists a better alternative?

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Arriving at Stansted Airport, suppose I'll take the Stansted
Express/Skytrain to Liverpool Street Station.

To go to Barking, may I be dropped along the route or I must go first
at Liverpool Str Station, then from there take the tube?

For instance, dropping at Tottenham Hale allow me to reach Barking
easily?

Or exists a better alternative?


Tottenham Hale to Barking involves one stop on the victoria to blackhorse
road, then a train to barking. The easiest way is Train to Liverpool street
and then H&C to barking.

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Paul Weaver wrote:
Tottenham Hale to Barking involves one stop on the victoria to blackhorse
road, then a train to barking.


These trains run every half hour.

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"Paul Weaver" wrote in message ...
"Jiminy" wrote in message
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Arriving at Stansted Airport, suppose I'll take the Stansted
Express/Skytrain to Liverpool Street Station.

To go to Barking, may I be dropped along the route or I must go first
at Liverpool Str Station, then from there take the tube?

For instance, dropping at Tottenham Hale allow me to reach Barking
easily?

Or exists a better alternative?


Tottenham Hale to Barking involves one stop on the victoria to blackhorse
road, then a train to barking. The easiest way is Train to Liverpool street
and then H&C to barking.


I agree, I don't think there's anything to be gained by not going all
the way to London Liverpool St. Looking at my London Connections map
suggests there is a limited train (as opposed to London Underground)
service from Liverpool St direct to Barking; I imagine this is a
peak-hours-only service, so your best bet would probably be to take
the Hammersmith&City line as suggested.

ObUTL: Looking again at this map: the GOBLin has really poor
connections doesn't it!

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Looking at my London Connections map
suggests there is a limited train (as opposed
to London Underground) service from Liverpool St
direct to Barking; I imagine this is a
peak-hours-only service


No, it's a very-late-night-only service.

ObUTL: Looking again at this map:
the GOBLin has really poor connections doesn't it!


The most irritating thing is that there is easily room to relocate the
Tottenham Hale WAGN platforms south of Ferry Road, in which case they would
stretch pretty much all the way to the Goblin Line where (I think) there is
room to build platforms. But since the WAGN platforms have recently had
shelters and escalators installed, I don't think they're going anywhere.

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On Fri, 24 Sep 2004, John Rowland wrote:

"LarryLard" wrote in message
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Looking at my London Connections map suggests there is a limited train
(as opposed to London Underground) service from Liverpool St direct to
Barking; I imagine this is a peak-hours-only service


No, it's a very-late-night-only service.


Yes, it's C2C LTS line trains, which run to Fenchurch Street in the day,
but use Liverpool Street at night. LTUC did a report on the possibility of
using Fenchurch Street all the time ('Which Street for Southend?'), and it
has an absolutely priceless observation:

4.9 Staff views

4.9.1 Passenger trains are run for the benefit of their users, not of
their staff, and the views of operating staff were not sought in the
course of this survey. Nevertheless, it is worth recording that LTUC's
surveyors were approached spontaneously by a number of c2c's train staff
at Fenchurch Street and of other train companies' station staff at
Liverpool Street. The train staff all expressed a strong preference for
Fenchurch Street, which they saw as their home territory (with the staff
amenities they regularly used) and as a less challenging route to operate.
The station staff also favoured the removal of c2c's trains from Liverpool
Street, as these trains were perceived to have a particularly challenging
clientele with whom it was necessary to cope.

I don't know if you've ever been at Liverpool Street while it's full of
Essex boys and girls on their way home after a night out, but
"particularly challenging" is a pretty good description!

ObUTL: Looking again at this map: the GOBLin has really poor
connections doesn't it!


The most irritating thing is that there is easily room to relocate the
Tottenham Hale WAGN platforms south of Ferry Road, in which case they
would stretch pretty much all the way to the Goblin Line where (I think)
there is room to build platforms.


Where abouts are the Victoria Line platforms, though?

tom

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On 24 Sep 2004, LarryLard wrote:

ObUTL: Looking again at this map: the GOBLin has really poor
connections doesn't it!


It's got a lot of 'near misses', though:

Upper Holloway - Archway
Harringay Green Lanes - Harringay
South Tottenham - Seven Sisters
Wathamstow Queens Road - Walthamstow Central
Wanstead Park - Forest Gate
Leytonstone High Road - Leytonstone
Woodgrange Park - Manor Park

All of those are a few hundred metres apart, which isn't that much of a
walk - probably less than the walks inside a larger tube station.

In fact, what is the longest interchange walk inside one station? I'd
guess it was Central to Circle at Bank. Or perhaps W&C to Circle.

tom

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On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 17:02:16 +0100 Tom Anderson
said...

ObUTL: Looking again at this map: the GOBLin has really poor
connections doesn't it!


It's got a lot of 'near misses', though:

Upper Holloway - Archway


Crouch Hill - Finsbury Park

Harringay Green Lanes - Harringay


Also Manor House

South Tottenham - Seven Sisters


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On Fri, 24 Sep 2004, Phil Richards wrote:

On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 17:02:16 +0100 Tom Anderson
said...

ObUTL: Looking again at this map: the GOBLin has really poor
connections doesn't it!


It's got a lot of 'near misses', though:

Upper Holloway - Archway


Crouch Hill - Finsbury Park

Harringay Green Lanes - Harringay


Also Manor House


True. In fact, once you look at it like this, the GOBLin is one of the
best-connected lines in London!

tom

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Phil Richards wrote:
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 17:02:16 +0100 Tom Anderson
ObUTL: Looking again at this map: the GOBLin has really poor
connections doesn't it!


It's got a lot of 'near misses', though:
Upper Holloway - Archway

Crouch Hill - Finsbury Park
Harringay Green Lanes - Harringay

Also Manor House
South Tottenham - Seven Sisters


It's a disgrace that both the Goblin and the North London have so many
non-interchanges after 50 years of nationalised railways. There's not
much sign of Ken improving things either.

Of course, if they had usable interchanges, they'd need frequent and
longer trains to carry the passengers they'd divert from overloaded
tube trains.

Colin McKenzie



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