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Daily Telegraph: 150 fascinating Tube facts
In message , at 13:31:19 on Sat, 12
Jan 2013, tim..... remarked: Erm, both routes he was comparing were from the Circle platforms. Who would do that, now that you also have to change at Edgware road? A kind person has emailed me the original report, and it was published in July 2010, based on data collected by LUL from 1998 to 2005 - when the Circle was still a circle (and not a teacup). The full report is 22 pages long, but doesn't seem to have "30%" in it anywhere, although it's full of very jargony/geeky statistics and terminology. In terms of "proving what the funders wanted", the main objective appears to be to investigate why travellers don't make the best decisions about where to change trains, and how things like the presentation of the map could be altered to help make their journeys quicker. One example that chimes well with me is the way Green Park looks like a good place to change trains, but isn't (very long walks). It actually deserves the dumbbell-icons even more than Baker St and Euston, and about the same as Bank/Monument. -- Roland Perry |
Daily Telegraph: 150 fascinating Tube facts
Changing at Green Park is okay as long as one always changes by going up to ticket hall level and back down.
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Daily Telegraph: 150 fascinating Tube facts
"Roland Perry" wrote in message ... In message , at 13:31:19 on Sat, 12 Jan 2013, tim..... remarked: Erm, both routes he was comparing were from the Circle platforms. Who would do that, now that you also have to change at Edgware road? A kind person has emailed me the original report, and it was published in July 2010, based on data collected by LUL from 1998 to 2005 - when the Circle was still a circle (and not a teacup). The full report is 22 pages long, but doesn't seem to have "30%" in it anywhere, although it's full of very jargony/geeky statistics and terminology. In terms of "proving what the funders wanted", the main objective appears to be to investigate why travellers don't make the best decisions about where to change trains, and how things like the presentation of the map could be altered to help make their journeys quicker. One example that chimes well with me is the way Green Park looks like a good place to change trains, but isn't (very long walks). It actually deserves the dumbbell-icons even more than Baker St and Euston, and about the same as Bank/Monument. perhaps a blow-up map of the central area with walking times between platforms would be useful (in addition to the current full map, not squeezed on the same map) tim |
Daily Telegraph: 150 fascinating Tube facts
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19:02:28 on Sat, 12 Jan 2013, Offramp remarked: Changing at Green Park is okay as long as one always changes by going up to ticket hall level and back down. Yes, and changing at Warren St is a bit like that too. -- Roland Perry |
Daily Telegraph: 150 fascinating Tube facts
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:02:28 -0800 (PST), Offramp
wrote: Changing at Green Park is okay as long as one always changes by going up to ticket hall level and back down. Obviously that applies to people changing to/from the Picc. It's a perfectly good interchange station between the Victoria and Jubilee lines. |
Daily Telegraph: 150 fascinating Tube facts
"Roland Perry" wrote in message ... In message , at 19:02:28 on Sat, 12 Jan 2013, Offramp remarked: Changing at Green Park is okay as long as one always changes by going up to ticket hall level and back down. Yes, and changing at Warren St is a bit like that too. no, you only have to go to the "half" landing. And it's a damned sight shorter that the walk at many other stations. tim |
Daily Telegraph: 150 fascinating Tube facts
In message , at 12:12:18 on Sun, 13
Jan 2013, tim..... remarked: Changing at Green Park is okay as long as one always changes by going up to ticket hall level and back down. Yes, and changing at Warren St is a bit like that too. no, you only have to go to the "half" landing. That's why it's "a bit" like Green Park, not identical. -- Roland Perry |
Daily Telegraph: 150 fascinating Tube facts
In message , at 14:03:57 on
Thu, 10 Jan 2013, David Walters remarked: If you have a desire to avoid lifts and escalators then a lot of the underground is off limits and it is very hard to plan a route with available information. There's a list of "Stair equipped" stations he http://www.geofftech.co.uk/tube/facts.html -- Roland Perry |
Daily Telegraph: 150 fascinating Tube facts
On 12/01/2013 15:26, tim..... wrote:
"Roland Perry" wrote in message ... In message , at 13:31:19 on Sat, 12 Jan 2013, tim..... remarked: I don't see that he can conclude that it's got anything to do with the journey "looking" shorted. That's what academics do - they study things and come to conclusions. Yes, but that doesn't make those conclusions right. But it does mean they are likely to be embarrassed if it's wrong, and spend more time on the research than the average tabloid journalist. Surely you've been around long enough to know that all such reports only come to the conclusion that the writer thinks that his audience wants. News reports certainly, but less so with academic studies; or at least it is a different sense of what the audience wants - "this needs more research/a grant/rethinking/whatever, rather than "... is the only language they understand". I did get hold of a copy of the paper when it came out. Based on my knowledge of the relevant branch of mathematics, erm, it had some long words and looked convincing. ISTR the study was supported by TfL. -- Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK |
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