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5. The shortest distance between two adjacent stations on the underground
network is only 260 metres. The tube journey between Leicester Square and
Covent Garden on the Piccadilly Line takes only about 20 seconds, but costs
£4.30. Yet it still remains the most popular journey with tourists.


Cheaper with Oyster, and does this record number of tourists really
catch the train from just Leicester Square to Covent Garden, or is this
conflated with Covent Garden perhaps being the station with the biggest
flow of tourists?

6. Many tube stations were used as air-raid shelters during the Second
World War, but the Central Line was even converted into a fighter aircraft
factory that stretched for over two miles, with its own railway system. Its
existence remained an official secret until the 1980s.


I don't think they "converted" the Central Line, it was under
construction and re-purposed as a factory, and only completed and handed
over as a railways after the war.

8. The shortest escalator is Stratford, with a vertical rise of 4.1m.


"at" Stratford, perhaps.

14. The deepest station is Hampstead on the Northern line, which runs down
to 58.5 metres.
15. In Central London the deepest station below street level is also the
Northern line. It is the DLR concourse at Bank, which is 41.4 metres below.
66. Amersham is also the most westerly tube station, as well as the highest


Another missing factoid is the deepest platforms below sea level.
Possibly Jubilee Line at Waterloo.

21. The station with the most platforms is Baker Street with 10 (Moorgate
also has 10 platforms but only six are used by Tube trains - others are
used by overground trains).


Given that it's not the Overground, perhaps "National Rail" trains would
be a better description. They are also counting the now-closed
Thameslink platforms, which is a bit suspect.

28.The station with the most escalators is Waterloo with 23.


I wonder how that's counted, for example there are two which are
arguably part of the National Rail station, plus another two very close
by, that used to travel up to the Eurostar Concourse.

58. The total number of lifts on the Underground, including four stair
lifts, is 164.


Same question really. How many of the lifts at Kings Cross/St Pancras
are deemed to be "On The Underground" and how many are part of the
National Rail infrastructure.

90. According to TFL, London Underground trains travel a total of 1,735
times around the world (or 90 trips to the moon and back).


How often? Daily, annually...

120. You can now no longer go around the Circle Line in a full circle. From
2009, the Circle Line terminated at Edgware Road.


But you can still travel from Edgware Rd to Edgware Rd, which is a full
circle.

125. Nineteen stations just use lifts.


They have stairs as well.

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On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:08:52 +0000, Roland Perry wrote:
125. Nineteen stations just use lifts.


They have stairs as well.


A list I've been looking for but haven't been able to find is stations,
or platforms really, that don't have publicly accessible stairs.
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Thu, 10 Jan 2013, David Walters remarked:

125. Nineteen stations just use lifts.


They have stairs as well.


A list I've been looking for but haven't been able to find is stations,
or platforms really, that don't have publicly accessible stairs.


I've always understood that every station with "only" lifts also has
emergency stairs (that may not be well signposted for regular use). And
also some stations still have the stairs despite now being fitted with
escalators (TCR springs to mind).

Then there's another set of stations with stairs in between the
escalators. Marble Arch as an example?
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On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:16:08 +0000, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 11:10:49 on
Thu, 10 Jan 2013, David Walters remarked:

125. Nineteen stations just use lifts.

They have stairs as well.


A list I've been looking for but haven't been able to find is stations,
or platforms really, that don't have publicly accessible stairs.


I've always understood that every station with "only" lifts also has
emergency stairs (that may not be well signposted for regular use). And
also some stations still have the stairs despite now being fitted with
escalators (TCR springs to mind).


I think that is true but some stations have escalators and no fixed
stairs, assuming everything is working. The stairs at Angel still seem to
be present but I think I'd cause a disturbance if I exited the platforms
that way.

If you have a desire to avoid lifts and escalators then a lot of the
underground is off limits and it is very hard to plan a route with
available information.
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In message , at 14:03:57 on
Thu, 10 Jan 2013, David Walters remarked:
I've always understood that every station with "only" lifts also has
emergency stairs (that may not be well signposted for regular use). And
also some stations still have the stairs despite now being fitted with
escalators (TCR springs to mind).


I think that is true but some stations have escalators and no fixed
stairs, assuming everything is working. The stairs at Angel still seem to
be present but I think I'd cause a disturbance if I exited the platforms
that way.


I presume those would exit via the original entrance, which is some way
round the corner from the present one.

If you have a desire to avoid lifts and escalators then a lot of the
underground is off limits and it is very hard to plan a route with
available information.


"Stairs only" is an unusual requirement, but I agree that information to
deliver it is hard to find.
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"David Walters" wrote in message
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On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:16:08 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:
In message , at 11:10:49 on
Thu, 10 Jan 2013, David Walters remarked:

125. Nineteen stations just use lifts.

They have stairs as well.

A list I've been looking for but haven't been able to find is stations,
or platforms really, that don't have publicly accessible stairs.


I've always understood that every station with "only" lifts also has
emergency stairs (that may not be well signposted for regular use). And
also some stations still have the stairs despite now being fitted with
escalators (TCR springs to mind).


I think that is true but some stations have escalators and no fixed
stairs, assuming everything is working. The stairs at Angel still seem to
be present but I think I'd cause a disturbance if I exited the platforms
that way.

If you have a desire to avoid lifts and escalators then a lot of the
underground is off limits and it is very hard to plan a route with
available information.


I can understand why someone might want to avoid lifts,

But what possible (disability) reason is there for wanting to avoid
escalators but are able to use stairs?

tim





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On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:49:37 -0000, tim..... wrote:

"David Walters" wrote in message
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If you have a desire to avoid lifts and escalators then a lot of the
underground is off limits and it is very hard to plan a route with
available information.


I can understand why someone might want to avoid lifts,

But what possible (disability) reason is there for wanting to avoid
escalators but are able to use stairs?


The only disability reason for wanting to avoid lifts I can think of
is claustrophobia. People might equally have a phobia of escalators
(is there a name for that?), they can be fairly dangerous machines and
have removed a toe from a user from time to time. I think that concern
would be better addressed by wearing stout shoes but phobias aren't
always very rational like that.

I have my own slightly silly reasons for wanting to avoid lifts and
escalators. I don't really think TfL should go out of their way to provide
me with information to help but I thought I might find something on the
Internet. So far I haven't.
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On 10/01/2013 18:49, tim..... wrote:

"David Walters" wrote in message
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On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:16:08 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:
In message , at 11:10:49 on
Thu, 10 Jan 2013, David Walters remarked:

125. Nineteen stations just use lifts.

They have stairs as well.

A list I've been looking for but haven't been able to find is stations,
or platforms really, that don't have publicly accessible stairs.

I've always understood that every station with "only" lifts also has
emergency stairs (that may not be well signposted for regular use). And
also some stations still have the stairs despite now being fitted with
escalators (TCR springs to mind).


I think that is true but some stations have escalators and no fixed
stairs, assuming everything is working. The stairs at Angel still seem to
be present but I think I'd cause a disturbance if I exited the platforms
that way.

If you have a desire to avoid lifts and escalators then a lot of the
underground is off limits and it is very hard to plan a route with
available information.


I can understand why someone might want to avoid lifts,

But what possible (disability) reason is there for wanting to avoid
escalators but are able to use stairs?


As someone I know was asking just last week, in order to take a dog who
is too heavy to carry. It is VERY hard to get info on stations which
ONLY offer escalators (in order that he can avoid them).


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On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 19:52:04 +0000
Paul Corfield wrote:
I've certainly seen some people - old and young - really struggle to
coordinate their arms and legs to get on and off an escalator. They
almost cause accidents through their hesitancy.


Most women seem almost completely incapable of walking off the end of an
escalator normally.

B2003

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On 2013\01\11 09:52, d wrote:

Most women seem almost completely incapable of walking off the end of an
escalator normally.


Most women or most women in high heels?



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