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On Jan 9, 10:27*pm, Recliner wrote:

6. Many tube stations were used as air-raid shelters during the Second
World War, but the Central Line was even converted into a fighter aircraft
factory that stretched for over two miles, with its own railway system. Its
existence remained an official secret until the 1980s.


Sounds interesting!

10. The longest distance between stations is on the Metropolitan line from
Chesham to Chalfont & Latimer: a total of only 3.89 miles.


Really? Only 3.89?

19. Over 47 million litres water are pumped from the Tube each day, enough
to fill a standard leisure centre swimming pool (25 metres x 10 metres)
every quarter of an hour.


That is a vast amount.

34. The total length of the London Underground network is 249 miles.
116. The total number of stations served on the network is 270.
133. An interactive novel has been published, set on the London
Underground. Two five three can be seen he London Underground. “253” can
be read here.


Are the figures in 34 & 116 still up-to-date? What is the 253 about?

39.One of the early names proposed for the Victoria Line was the Viking
line.


They might have expanded on this: VIctoria-KING's Cross.

69. The Underground has the oldest section of underground railway in the world, which opened in 1863.
74. The first Tube tunnel was opened in 1880, running from the Tower of
London to Bermondsey.


I suppose the first example was cut-and-cover.

79. Penalty fares were only introduced in 1994.


"79. Penalty Fares were introduced as recently as 1994."

103. According to a 2002 study air quality on the Underground was 73 times
worse than at street level, with 20 minutes on the Northern Line having
"the same effect as smoking a cigarette".


I remember this report which seems to have been totally buried.

112. There are 14 journeys between stations that take less than a minute on
average.


I imagine these are all in zone 1.

126. The River Westbourne was funnelled above a platform on Sloane Square
in a large iron pipe suspended from girders. It remains in place today.


I mistakenly thought it was the Tyburn.

134. In cockney rhyming slang, the London Underground is known as the Oxo
(Cube/ Tube).


News to me!

143. A series of animal shapes have also been highlighted in the London
Underground map, first discovered by Paul Middlewick in 1988. They're
created using the tube lines, stations and junctions of the London
Underground map.


Discovered?
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On Wed, 9 Jan 2013 22:48:23 -0800 (PST), Offramp
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On Jan 9, 10:27*pm, Recliner wrote:



134. In cockney rhyming slang, the London Underground is known as the Oxo
(Cube/ Tube).


News to me!


And to me too, but even more remarkably, to Bob Crow (on the Daily
Politics show).

Mr Crow was a surprisingly pleasant guest, who turned out to agree
with Boris on transport matters such as Crossrail 2. He didn't do too
well on the LU 150 quiz (he obviously hadn't read this thread or the
Telegraph). Oddly, the only politician he criticised was the Labour
transport minister who he said had shut the Ongar line (the politician
in question is rather more famous for her previous career, Glenda
Jackson). In fact, of course, it was closed in 1994, during the Major
administration. Is Bob becoming a closet Tory?
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snip Oddly, the only politician he criticised was the Labour
transport minister who he said had shut the Ongar line (the politician
in question is rather more famous for her previous career, Glenda
Jackson). In fact, of course, it was closed in 1994, during the Major
administration. Is Bob becoming a closet Tory?


Possibly depends on the meaning of "shut"? I thought services stopped
running in 1994 but that it was not until 1998, when Glenda Jackson was
the junior Minister with responsibility for transport in London, that
the line was sold.
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"Robin" wrote:
snip Oddly, the only politician he criticised was the Labour
transport minister who he said had shut the Ongar line (the politician
in question is rather more famous for her previous career, Glenda
Jackson). In fact, of course, it was closed in 1994, during the Major
administration. Is Bob becoming a closet Tory?


Possibly depends on the meaning of "shut"? I thought services stopped
running in 1994 but that it was not until 1998, when Glenda Jackson was
the junior Minister with responsibility for transport in London, that
the line was sold.


Ah, that explains it. But it had been formally closed before then, hadn't
it?
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On 10/01/2013 15:17, Recliner wrote:
"Robin" wrote:
snip Oddly, the only politician he criticised was the Labour
transport minister who he said had shut the Ongar line (the politician
in question is rather more famous for her previous career, Glenda
Jackson). In fact, of course, it was closed in 1994, during the Major
administration. Is Bob becoming a closet Tory?


Possibly depends on the meaning of "shut"? I thought services stopped
running in 1994 but that it was not until 1998, when Glenda Jackson was
the junior Minister with responsibility for transport in London, that
the line was sold.


Ah, that explains it. But it had been formally closed before then, hadn't
it?


I wonder if urban sprawl would ever see the EOR operate any sort of
regular service or if TfL would ever consider taking over that section
once again.

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On 10/01/2013 06:48, Offramp wrote:
On Jan 9, 10:27 pm, Recliner wrote:

6. Many tube stations were used as air-raid shelters during the Second
World War, but the Central Line was even converted into a fighter aircraft
factory that stretched for over two miles, with its own railway system. Its
existence remained an official secret until the 1980s.


Sounds interesting!

10. The longest distance between stations is on the Metropolitan line from
Chesham to Chalfont & Latimer: a total of only 3.89 miles.


Really? Only 3.89?


I personally thought that it was longer than 3.89.


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Jan 2013, " remarked:
10. The longest distance between stations is on the Metropolitan line from
Chesham to Chalfont & Latimer: a total of only 3.89 miles.


Really? Only 3.89?


I personally thought that it was longer than 3.89.


Google maps says it's 4.1 miles by the slightly indirect road.
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In message , Roland Perry
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Really? Only 3.89?


I personally thought that it was longer than 3.89.


Google maps says it's 4.1 miles by the slightly indirect road.


6.35km according to official measurements.

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In message , at 23:14:54 on Thu, 10
Jan 2013, Clive D. W. Feather remarked:
Really? Only 3.89?

I personally thought that it was longer than 3.89.


Google maps says it's 4.1 miles by the slightly indirect road.


6.35km according to official measurements.


I assume you mean the railway, not the road.

So that's 3.95 miles. Is the 0.06 mile (about 320ft) something to do
with which end of the platform they are measuring from?
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On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 06:48:23 -0000, Offramp wrote:
On Jan 9, 10:27 pm, Recliner wrote:
112. There are 14 journeys between stations that take less than a
minute on average.


I imagine these are all in zone 1.


I think South Ealing to Northfields is one.

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