Heathrow Connect doesn't accept Oyster cards (between Heathrow and
Hayes & Harlington). So what's the recommended method to make a journey
between Heathrow and somewhere in Oysterland, for example Stratford changing
to/from the Central at Ealing Broadway?

1. Buy paper ticket LHR to Ealing, touch in at Ealing, change to Central line
2. Paper LHR to H&H, jump off train, touch validator, dive back on again
3. Westbound only: Paper travelcard plus BZ6 to LHR (does that exist?).[1]
4. Westbound only: Paper travelcard (eg Z1-3) plus Ealing to LHR addon

Where are the 'touch in' points at H&H - is (2) likely to happen without
waiting half an hour for the next train? Similarly, is a 'touch in' at
Ealing easy without coming all the way out of the station and going back in
again?

To make life more confusing, the Network Railcard discount applies to H.Conn
tickets on weekends, but not to Oyster. Presumably there's no 'LHR to BZ6'
ticket either (no, can't find one).

[1] Hmm, BZ6 to LHR does exist:
http://www.brfares.com/#fares?orig=0...&rlc=%20%20%20
but it's more expensive (6.00) than H&H to LHR (5.20). OTOH BZ3 to LHR
http://www.brfares.com/#fares?orig=0...&rlc=%20%20%20
is cheaper (6.60 v 7.40) than Ealing to LHR.

And paper travelcards are quite expensive if you're only making one journey.
Would be cheaper to get a paper single, if you can get a Z1-3 single at LHR
(and the gates don't complain that it's never been previously seen)

Any better ideas?

Sigh. If only Heathrow Connect was 'zone 99' or something, would make life
a lot easier.

Theo

Theo Markettos wrote on 20 January
2013 17:35:08 ...
Heathrow Connect doesn't accept Oyster cards (between Heathrow and
Hayes & Harlington). So what's the recommended method to make a journey
between Heathrow and somewhere in Oysterland, for example Stratford changing
to/from the Central at Ealing Broadway?

1. Buy paper ticket LHR to Ealing, touch in at Ealing, change to Central line
2. Paper LHR to H&H, jump off train, touch validator, dive back on again
3. Westbound only: Paper travelcard plus BZ6 to LHR (does that exist?).[1]
4. Westbound only: Paper travelcard (eg Z1-3) plus Ealing to LHR addon

Where are the 'touch in' points at H&H - is (2) likely to happen without
waiting half an hour for the next train? Similarly, is a 'touch in' at
Ealing easy without coming all the way out of the station and going back in
again?

To make life more confusing, the Network Railcard discount applies to H.Conn
tickets on weekends, but not to Oyster. Presumably there's no 'LHR to BZ6'
ticket either (no, can't find one).

[1] Hmm, BZ6 to LHR does exist:
http://www.brfares.com/#fares?orig=0...&rlc=%20%20%20
but it's more expensive (6.00) than H&H to LHR (5.20). OTOH BZ3 to LHR
http://www.brfares.com/#fares?orig=0...&rlc=%20%20%20
is cheaper (6.60 v 7.40) than Ealing to LHR.

And paper travelcards are quite expensive if you're only making one journey.
Would be cheaper to get a paper single, if you can get a Z1-3 single at LHR
(and the gates don't complain that it's never been previously seen)

Any better ideas?

Sigh. If only Heathrow Connect was 'zone 99' or something, would make life
a lot easier.

Theo

Why do you want to use Connect anyway? It runs only every 30 minutes,
and only from the T1&3 station. Take the Piccadilly Line from whichever
terminal you arrive at and change somewhere, e.g. at Holborn if you're
going to Stratford.
--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

In article ,
(Richard J.) wrote:

Theo Markettos wrote on 20
January 2013 17:35:08 ...
Heathrow Connect doesn't accept Oyster cards (between Heathrow and
Hayes & Harlington). So what's the recommended method to make a journey
between Heathrow and somewhere in Oysterland, for example Stratford
changing to/from the Central at Ealing Broadway?

1. Buy paper ticket LHR to Ealing, touch in at Ealing, change to
Central line
2. Paper LHR to H&H, jump off train, touch validator, dive back on again
3. Westbound only: Paper travelcard plus BZ6 to LHR (does that
exist?).[1]
4. Westbound only: Paper travelcard (eg Z1-3) plus Ealing to LHR addon

Where are the 'touch in' points at H&H - is (2) likely to happen without
waiting half an hour for the next train? Similarly, is a 'touch in' at
Ealing easy without coming all the way out of the station and going back
in again?

To make life more confusing, the Network Railcard discount applies to
H.Conn tickets on weekends, but not to Oyster. Presumably there's no
'LHR to BZ6' ticket either (no, can't find one).

[1] Hmm, BZ6 to LHR does exist:
http://www.brfares.com/#fares?orig=0...&rlc=%20%20%20
but it's more expensive (6.00) than H&H to LHR (5.20). OTOH BZ3 to LHR
http://www.brfares.com/#fares?orig=0...&rlc=%20%20%20
is cheaper (6.60 v 7.40) than Ealing to LHR.

And paper travelcards are quite expensive if you're only making one
journey. Would be cheaper to get a paper single, if you can get a Z1-3
single at LHR (and the gates don't complain that it's never been
previously seen)

Any better ideas?

Sigh. If only Heathrow Connect was 'zone 99' or something, would make
life a lot easier.

Why do you want to use Connect anyway? It runs only every 30
minutes, and only from the T1&3 station. Take the Piccadilly Line
from whichever terminal you arrive at and change somewhere, e.g. at
Holborn if you're going to Stratford.

The Piccadilly Line is only going as far as Acton Town from Heathrow at
weekends this month and I gather some are only going as far as Northfields.
It would have been nice if Heathrow Connect to Ealing Broadway had been
offered as an alternative by extending Oyster validity for the duration.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

wrote:
The Piccadilly Line is only going as far as Acton Town from Heathrow at
weekends this month and I gather some are only going as far as Northfields.
It would have been nice if Heathrow Connect to Ealing Broadway had been
offered as an alternative by extending Oyster validity for the duration.

Indeed, /and/ the northern Circle/H&C/Met/etc are out too on some days, so
HEx isn't much use either.

Theo

In article ,
(Theo Markettos) wrote:

wrote:
The Piccadilly Line is only going as far as Acton Town from
Heathrow at weekends this month and I gather some are only going as
far as Northfields. It would have been nice if Heathrow Connect to
Ealing Broadway had been offered as an alternative by extending
Oyster validity for the duration.

Indeed, /and/ the northern Circle/H&C/Met/etc are out too on some days, so
HEx isn't much use either.

The Circle/H&C seemed to be running normally yesterday.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

wrote on 20 January 2013 19:14:10 ...
In article ,
(Richard J.) wrote:

Theo Markettos wrote on 20
January 2013 17:35:08 ...
Heathrow Connect doesn't accept Oyster cards (between Heathrow and
Hayes & Harlington). So what's the recommended method to make a journey
between Heathrow and somewhere in Oysterland, for example Stratford
changing to/from the Central at Ealing Broadway?

1. Buy paper ticket LHR to Ealing, touch in at Ealing, change to
Central line
2. Paper LHR to H&H, jump off train, touch validator, dive back on again
3. Westbound only: Paper travelcard plus BZ6 to LHR (does that
exist?).[1]
4. Westbound only: Paper travelcard (eg Z1-3) plus Ealing to LHR addon

Where are the 'touch in' points at H&H - is (2) likely to happen without
waiting half an hour for the next train? Similarly, is a 'touch in' at
Ealing easy without coming all the way out of the station and going back
in again?

To make life more confusing, the Network Railcard discount applies to
H.Conn tickets on weekends, but not to Oyster. Presumably there's no
'LHR to BZ6' ticket either (no, can't find one).

[1] Hmm, BZ6 to LHR does exist:
http://www.brfares.com/#fares?orig=0...&rlc=%20%20%20
but it's more expensive (6.00) than H&H to LHR (5.20). OTOH BZ3 to LHR
http://www.brfares.com/#fares?orig=0...&rlc=%20%20%20
is cheaper (6.60 v 7.40) than Ealing to LHR.

And paper travelcards are quite expensive if you're only making one
journey. Would be cheaper to get a paper single, if you can get a Z1-3
single at LHR (and the gates don't complain that it's never been
previously seen)

Any better ideas?

Sigh. If only Heathrow Connect was 'zone 99' or something, would make
life a lot easier.

Why do you want to use Connect anyway? It runs only every 30
minutes, and only from the T1&3 station. Take the Piccadilly Line
from whichever terminal you arrive at and change somewhere, e.g. at
Holborn if you're going to Stratford.

The Piccadilly Line is only going as far as Acton Town from Heathrow at
weekends this month

Actually only at 2 weekends this month (5/6 and 19/20 Jan) and one next
month (9/10 Feb, closed Northfields-Hammersmith and Uxbridge-Hammersmith).
--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

In article ,
(Richard J.) wrote:

The Piccadilly Line is only going as far as Acton Town from Heathrow at
weekends this month

Actually only at 2 weekends this month (5/6 and 19/20 Jan) and one
next month (9/10 Feb, closed Northfields-Hammersmith and
Uxbridge-Hammersmith).

Ouch! How will Heathrow be served via Northfields? Or will they let people
use Heathrow Express/Connect this time?

later Not by the look of it though TfL's Journey Planner only offers HEX
by default. Excluding Rail the only alternative (1) is Piccadilly to
Hammersmith, replacement bus to Boston Manor and Piccadilly from there.

(1) apart from the positively wacky coach 504 from Victoria Coach Station
("TfL tickets and passes are not accepted on this service")

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In article ,
() wrote:

later Not by the look of it though TfL's Journey Planner only
offers HEX by default. Excluding Rail the only alternative (1) is
Piccadilly to Hammersmith, replacement bus to Boston Manor and
Piccadilly from there.

From Kings Cross St Pancras which I was looking at it was actually
H&C/Circle to Hammersmith in fact.

I see there is also a rail replacement bus from Ealing Broadway to Boston
Manor with an impressive 9minute journey time. Another suggestion is to go
via the Met to Uxbridge and take the A30 bus.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On 20/01/2013 18:29, Richard J. wrote:
Theo Markettos wrote on 20 January
2013 17:35:08 ...
Heathrow Connect doesn't accept Oyster cards (between Heathrow and
Hayes & Harlington). So what's the recommended method to make a journey
between Heathrow and somewhere in Oysterland, for example Stratford
changing
to/from the Central at Ealing Broadway?

1. Buy paper ticket LHR to Ealing, touch in at Ealing, change to
Central line
2. Paper LHR to H&H, jump off train, touch validator, dive back on again
3. Westbound only: Paper travelcard plus BZ6 to LHR (does that
exist?).[1]
4. Westbound only: Paper travelcard (eg Z1-3) plus Ealing to LHR addon

Where are the 'touch in' points at H&H - is (2) likely to happen without
waiting half an hour for the next train? Similarly, is a 'touch in' at
Ealing easy without coming all the way out of the station and going
back in
again?

To make life more confusing, the Network Railcard discount applies to
H.Conn
tickets on weekends, but not to Oyster. Presumably there's no 'LHR to
BZ6'
ticket either (no, can't find one).

[1] Hmm, BZ6 to LHR does exist:
http://www.brfares.com/#fares?orig=0...&rlc=%20%20%20
but it's more expensive (6.00) than H&H to LHR (5.20). OTOH BZ3 to LHR
http://www.brfares.com/#fares?orig=0...&rlc=%20%20%20
is cheaper (6.60 v 7.40) than Ealing to LHR.

And paper travelcards are quite expensive if you're only making one
journey.
Would be cheaper to get a paper single, if you can get a Z1-3 single
at LHR
(and the gates don't complain that it's never been previously seen)

Any better ideas?

Sigh. If only Heathrow Connect was 'zone 99' or something, would make
life
a lot easier.

Theo

Why do you want to use Connect anyway? It runs only every 30 minutes,
and only from the T1&3 station. Take the Piccadilly Line from whichever
terminal you arrive at and change somewhere, e.g. at Holborn if you're
going to Stratford.


You could also change to the Jubilee Line for Stratford at Green Park,
which has step-free access.

In article ,
(Theo Markettos) wrote:

Heathrow Connect doesn't accept Oyster cards (between Heathrow and
Hayes & Harlington). So what's the recommended method to make a journey
between Heathrow and somewhere in Oysterland, for example Stratford
changing to/from the Central at Ealing Broadway?

1. Buy paper ticket LHR to Ealing, touch in at Ealing, change to
Central line
2. Paper LHR to H&H, jump off train, touch validator, dive back on again
3. Westbound only: Paper travelcard plus BZ6 to LHR (does that
exist?).[1]
4. Westbound only: Paper travelcard (eg Z1-3) plus Ealing to LHR addon

Where are the 'touch in' points at H&H - is (2) likely to happen without
waiting half an hour for the next train? Similarly, is a 'touch in' at
Ealing easy without coming all the way out of the station and going back
in again?

To make life more confusing, the Network Railcard discount applies to
H.Conn tickets on weekends, but not to Oyster. Presumably there's no
'LHR to BZ6' ticket either (no, can't find one).

[1] Hmm, BZ6 to LHR does exist:
http://www.brfares.com/#fares?orig=0...&rlc=%20%20%20
but it's more expensive (6.00) than H&H to LHR (5.20). OTOH BZ3 to LHR
http://www.brfares.com/#fares?orig=0...&rlc=%20%20%20
is cheaper (6.60 v 7.40) than Ealing to LHR.

BZ6 to LHR is presumably for journeys from the west outside Greater London,
not for Heathrow Connect from H&H.

And paper travelcards are quite expensive if you're only making one
journey. Would be cheaper to get a paper single, if you can get a
Z1-3 single at LHR
(and the gates don't complain that it's never been previously seen)

Any better ideas?

Sigh. If only Heathrow Connect was 'zone 99' or something, would make
life a lot easier.

Indeed. As I keep saying it's high time the evil nonsense of the BAA (or
whatever it's called this week) monopoly was brought to an end. It should be
incorporated into the London public transport network like pretty well every
other airport train service in the world.

--
Colin Rosenstiel