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There still aren't any.

I had an argument with a guard when he (pointlessly) wanted to see my
Oyster card...

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James Farrar wrote:

I had an argument with a guard when he (pointlessly) wanted to see my
Oyster card...


Why not just show it to him then?
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On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 00:53:21 +0100, Michael Hoffman
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James Farrar wrote:

I had an argument with a guard when he (pointlessly) wanted to see my
Oyster card...


Why not just show it to him then?


I did, whilst explaining to him in great detail why it was pointless.
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James Farrar wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 00:53:21 +0100, Michael Hoffman
wrote:

James Farrar wrote:

I had an argument with a guard when he (pointlessly) wanted to see my
Oyster card...

Why not just show it to him then?


I did, whilst explaining to him in great detail why it was pointless.


Well, if you claim to have an Oyster card but can't provide one, that
means you owe a fare.

If you have an Oyster card which can't be checked, then you might not
owe a fare.

So I wouldn't fault the guard for doing a small bit of diligence to
check that you actually have a card.
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On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 01:05:36 +0100, Michael Hoffman
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James Farrar wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 00:53:21 +0100, Michael Hoffman
wrote:

James Farrar wrote:

I had an argument with a guard when he (pointlessly) wanted to see my
Oyster card...
Why not just show it to him then?


I did, whilst explaining to him in great detail why it was pointless.


Well, if you claim to have an Oyster card but can't provide one, that
means you owe a fare.

If you have an Oyster card which can't be checked, then you might not
owe a fare.

So I wouldn't fault the guard for doing a small bit of diligence to
check that you actually have a card.


What's the difference between me showing an Oyster wallet (reasonably
distinctive, I would think) and actually showing him the card? None.

I have a couple of empty cards at home that I use for prepay when I
have guests visiting London. I could quite happily travel free on HC,
apparently.


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James Farrar wrote:

What's the difference between me showing an Oyster wallet (reasonably
distinctive, I would think) and actually showing him the card?


The card.
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On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 02:28:17 +0100, Michael Hoffman
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James Farrar wrote:

What's the difference between me showing an Oyster wallet (reasonably
distinctive, I would think) and actually showing him the card?


The card.


Which tells him precisely nothing, as I explained.
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James Farrar wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 02:28:17 +0100, Michael Hoffman
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James Farrar wrote:

What's the difference between me showing an Oyster wallet (reasonably
distinctive, I would think) and actually showing him the card?

The card.


Which tells him precisely nothing, as I explained.


Suit yourself.
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On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 02:48:42 +0100, James Farrar
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Which tells him precisely nothing, as I explained.


It tells him that you have one, valid or not...

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On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 05:41:18 GMT, (Neil
Williams) wrote:

On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 02:48:42 +0100, James Farrar
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Which tells him precisely nothing, as I explained.


It tells him that you have one, valid or not...


So he doesn't know that I have a valid ticket for travel. He knew that
without asking me anything...


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