London bus routes and passenger numbers
 

TfL publish a fair amount of information about the performance of the
bus network, but this focusses on timeliness and on mileage operated.

Is there any public information out there about passenger numbers, for
example by bus route?

London bus routes and passenger numbers
 

On 09/01/2014 15:05, Mizter T wrote:
TfL publish a fair amount of information about the performance of the
bus network, but this focusses on timeliness and on mileage operated.

I should have added this link to that performance data:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/businessandpartners/busoperators/1552.aspx


Is there any public information out there about passenger numbers, for
example by bus route?

London bus routes and passenger numbers
 

Mizter T wrote:

TfL publish a fair amount of information about the performance of the
bus network, but this focusses on timeliness and on mileage operated.

Is there any public information out there about passenger numbers,
for example by bus route?

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/reque...ncoming-466020

23.4 million people used the 25 in 2012/13, while a mere 9,958 used the
N238.

Peter Smyth

London bus routes and passenger numbers
 

"Peter Smyth" wrote in message ...

Is there any public information out there about passenger numbers,
for example by bus route?

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/reque...ncoming-466020

23.4 million people used the 25 in 2012/13, while a mere 9,958 used the
N238.


No data for the 965 though

K50 35 609

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Mike D

London bus routes and passenger numbers
 

"Peter Smyth" wrote in message
...
Mizter T wrote:

TfL publish a fair amount of information about the performance of the
bus network, but this focusses on timeliness and on mileage operated.

Is there any public information out there about passenger numbers,
for example by bus route?

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/reque...ncoming-466020

23.4 million people used the 25 in 2012/13, while a mere 9,958 used the
N238.

one of the daytime ones wasn't much better

399 - 13,000

assuming that it runs every day (OK It's M-Sa only) that's 40 pax per day or
8 pax per bus (it's seems to be a circular route)

Would be cheaper to offer them a taxi!

tim




Peter Smyth

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"Paul Corfield" wrote

No data for the 965 though

K50 35 609

In the data released to the London Assembly / London Datastore the 965
was listed though. It had 1,819 pax last year.

Also the N238 was an Olympics only route that only ran for a few weeks
so 9,958 was not actually too bad. I certainly saw people using it
when I did some Olympic night bus photos.



Thanks


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Mike D

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On Friday, 10 January 2014 17:30:23 UTC, tim...... wrote:

399 - 13,000

Route 399; Hadley Wood - Monken Hadley - Barnet. It seems to be only a ¼-hr run. A very short route!

London bus routes and passenger numbers
 

On 2014-01-12, Offramp wrote:
On Friday, 10 January 2014 17:30:23 UTC, tim...... wrote:

399 - 13,000

Route 399; Hadley Wood - Monken Hadley - Barnet. It seems to be only a
?-hr run. A very short route!

26 minutes round trip, the outer end is a largish loop.

It runs hourly, the bus spends the other half hour doing the 389 (only
22 minutes round trip, also ends in a smaller loop).

Eric
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ms fnd in a lbry

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On 2014\01\12 09:20, Offramp wrote:

Route 399; Hadley Wood - Monken Hadley - Barnet. It seems to be only a ¼-hr run. A very short route!

It was discussed in this group 12 years ago.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!ms...c/5Jct8GcUiIQJ

London bus routes and passenger numbers
 

In message of Sun, 12 Jan 2014
11:24:45 in uk.transport.london, Basil Jet
writes
On 2014\01\12 09:20, Offramp wrote:

Route 399; Hadley Wood - Monken Hadley - Barnet. It seems to be only
a ¼-hr run. A very short route!

It was discussed in this group 12 years ago.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!ms...ndon/q82besuC-
Cc/5Jct8GcUiIQJ

I am sorry to be untopical, but please tell how you found that URL.
Until a few months ago, I could search Google groups, using Google
Groups Advanced Search http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?num=100
&q=&
That now maps to https://groups.google.com/forum/#!overview, where I
find zilch. I REALLY miss a search form.
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Walter Briscoe

London bus routes and passenger numbers
 

Hi Paul,

Is there any chance I could get a hold of that data - doing a project on London buses at the moment and that data would be very useful.

Best,
Sethmi

On Thursday, January 9, 2014 8:44:44 PM UTC, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 15:05:28 +0000, Mizter T

wrote:



TfL publish a fair amount of information about the performance of the

bus network, but this focusses on timeliness and on mileage operated.



Is there any public information out there about passenger numbers, for

example by bus route?



TfL supplied 12 years worth of data of bus route patronage to the

London Assembly Transport Committee. It's on the Assembly website

under their Bus Report issued late last year. The spreadsheet is also

in the London Datastore. Some of the data is a bit rough - especially

where route numbers have been reused over the 12 year period. It's all

on the same line in the spreadsheet!



I have produced a spreadsheet of the data and added a load of extra

data like operator, start / end points, plus calculated year on year

percentage changes and the 12 year change. I've also tried to identify

what might have caused the changes in patronage (extra frequencies,

extensions, curtailments etc). There is also a "look up" table so you

can enter the route number and the relevant data for the route

appears.



If you would like a copy then drop me a line at plcd1 at yahoo dot co

dot uk and I'll send you a copy.



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Paul C

London bus routes and passenger numbers
 

Hi Paul,

Is there any chance I could get a hold of that data - doing a project on London buses at the moment and that data would be very useful.

Best,
Sethmi

On Thursday, January 9, 2014 8:44:44 PM UTC, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 15:05:28 +0000, Mizter T

wrote:



TfL publish a fair amount of information about the performance of the

bus network, but this focusses on timeliness and on mileage operated.



Is there any public information out there about passenger numbers, for

example by bus route?



TfL supplied 12 years worth of data of bus route patronage to the

London Assembly Transport Committee. It's on the Assembly website

under their Bus Report issued late last year. The spreadsheet is also

in the London Datastore. Some of the data is a bit rough - especially

where route numbers have been reused over the 12 year period. It's all

on the same line in the spreadsheet!



I have produced a spreadsheet of the data and added a load of extra

data like operator, start / end points, plus calculated year on year

percentage changes and the 12 year change. I've also tried to identify

what might have caused the changes in patronage (extra frequencies,

extensions, curtailments etc). There is also a "look up" table so you

can enter the route number and the relevant data for the route

appears.



If you would like a copy then drop me a line at plcd1 at yahoo dot co

dot uk and I'll send you a copy.



--

Paul C

London bus routes and passenger numbers
 

Thanks Paul! I look forward to hearing from you soon.

-Sethmi

On Friday, May 23, 2014 8:09:20 PM UTC+1, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Fri, 23 May 2014 10:45:41 -0700 (PDT), wrote:



Hi Paul,



Is there any chance I could get a hold of that data - doing a project on London buses at the moment and that data would be very useful.



Best,

Sethmi



On Thursday, January 9, 2014 8:44:44 PM UTC, Paul Corfield wrote:

On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 15:05:28 +0000, Mizter T



wrote:



TfL publish a fair amount of information about the performance of the

bus network, but this focusses on timeliness and on mileage operated.



Is there any public information out there about passenger numbers, for

example by bus route?



TfL supplied 12 years worth of data of bus route patronage to the



London Assembly Transport Committee. It's on the Assembly website

under their Bus Report issued late last year. The spreadsheet is also

in the London Datastore. Some of the data is a bit rough - especially

where route numbers have been reused over the 12 year period. It's all

on the same line in the spreadsheet!



I have produced a spreadsheet of the data and added a load of extra

data like operator, start / end points, plus calculated year on year

percentage changes and the 12 year change. I've also tried to identify

what might have caused the changes in patronage (extra frequencies,

extensions, curtailments etc). There is also a "look up" table so you

can enter the route number and the relevant data for the route

appears.



If you would like a copy then drop me a line at plcd1 at yahoo dot co

dot uk and I'll send you a copy.





I have recently updated the spreadsheet to include the 2013/14 data

that TfL have just published. I am also working to do a "rough and

ready" calculation of bus route capacity to give a view of which bus

routes are under or over capacity relative to annual demand.



I see you have sent me an email and I'm drafting a reply.



For those who want the updated version with the new data then use the

email address in the post above.

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Paul C