In message , at 19:02:47 on Wed, 30
Apr 2014, tim..... remarked:
I really need to know what this last train at 11:00, but outbound from
Central London at 9:30 claim, means.

That would mean last inbound at 9:00 on most lines, how is that 11:00?

I'd guess it meant that the last inbound was later than the last
outbound.

Of course my luck will depend upon whether HEx is running or not.
There's a perfectly usable HR connect at 10:29 which gives me an hour
to get from Padd to Vic on the bus. But if they are on strike again as
well [2] I'm kind of stuck unless my flights dead early and there isn't
a scrum at immigration

Yesterday the Border Agency systems broke, with queues of 90 minutes to
2 hrs reported at some airports.

so I can bus to Feltham.

And why, if it isn't actually the drivers that are on strike, are the
trains so sparse anyway?

It's one set of drivers, isn't it?
--
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 19:02:47 on Wed, 30 Apr
2014, tim..... remarked:
I really need to know what this last train at 11:00, but outbound from
Central London at 9:30 claim, means.

That would mean last inbound at 9:00 on most lines, how is that 11:00?

I'd guess it meant that the last inbound was later than the last outbound.

I thought all the depots were at (or near) the extremities (Morden, Rislip,
Northfields etc)

Of course my luck will depend upon whether HEx is running or not. There's
a perfectly usable HR connect at 10:29 which gives me an hour to get from
Padd to Vic on the bus. But if they are on strike again as well [2] I'm
kind of stuck unless my flights dead early and there isn't a scrum at
immigration

Yesterday the Border Agency systems broke, with queues of 90 minutes to 2
hrs reported at some airports.

OMG !

This really is getting silly (and I wonder if one's insurance might cover
such a delay!)

so I can bus to Feltham.

And why, if it isn't actually the drivers that are on strike, are the
trains so sparse anyway?

It's one set of drivers, isn't it?

So why did the Northern run a near normal service (apparently)

tim

On 01/05/2014 12:27, tim..... wrote:
[...]
And why, if it isn't actually the drivers that are on strike, are
the trains so sparse anyway?

It's one set of drivers, isn't it?

So why did the Northern run a near normal service (apparently)

The Northern line's ASLEF territory.

"Mizter T" wrote in message
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On 30/04/2014 18:02, tim..... wrote:

[central London to Heathrow during Tube strike]

I've got to do the reverse next week.

LHR to Vic after 10pm [1] to arrive for my last train at midnight.

I really need to know what this last train at 11:00, but outbound from
Central London at 9:30 claim, means.

That would mean last inbound at 9:00 on most lines, how is that 11:00?

Of course my luck will depend upon whether HEx is running or not.
There's a perfectly usable HR connect at 10:29 which gives me an hour to
get from Padd to Vic on the bus. But if they are on strike again as
well [2] I'm kind of stuck unless my flights dead early and there isn't
a scrum at immigration so I can bus to Feltham.

HEx workers are not on strike next week.

Is that actually certain, or is it just they that haven't yet announced that
they will (though I guess it's now too late to do so)

Anyone know how the taxis are running. Many other countries would
organise "official" sharing in these circumstances, but I bet the
"brothers" aren't keen on that and are just taking the opportunity to
rake it in!

Taxi marshalling will be in operation, as is usual when there's a Tube
strike. See:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/press-releases/2014/april/tfl-sets-out-plans-to-keep-capital-moving-during-strikes

Only at Main line stations

And It doesn't say what marshalling is. A strict grammatical meaning would
simply be people making sure that no-one queue jumps. It wouldn't include
going out of their way to put customers for like destinations in the same
cab

but thanks anyway

tim

On 01/05/2014 12:32, tim..... wrote:


"Mizter T" wrote in message
...

On 30/04/2014 18:02, tim..... wrote:

[central London to Heathrow during Tube strike]

I've got to do the reverse next week.

LHR to Vic after 10pm [1] to arrive for my last train at midnight.

I really need to know what this last train at 11:00, but outbound from
Central London at 9:30 claim, means.

That would mean last inbound at 9:00 on most lines, how is that 11:00?

Of course my luck will depend upon whether HEx is running or not.
There's a perfectly usable HR connect at 10:29 which gives me an hour to
get from Padd to Vic on the bus. But if they are on strike again as
well [2] I'm kind of stuck unless my flights dead early and there isn't
a scrum at immigration so I can bus to Feltham.

HEx workers are not on strike next week.

Is that actually certain, or is it just they that haven't yet announced
that they will (though I guess it's now too late to do so)

Needs seven days notice.


Anyone know how the taxis are running. Many other countries would
organise "official" sharing in these circumstances, but I bet the
"brothers" aren't keen on that and are just taking the opportunity to
rake it in!

Taxi marshalling will be in operation, as is usual when there's a Tube
strike. See:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/press-releases/2014/april/tfl-sets-out-plans-to-keep-capital-moving-during-strikes


Only at Main line stations

In other countries, would organised marshalling/sharing be much more
widespread?


And It doesn't say what marshalling is. A strict grammatical meaning
would simply be people making sure that no-one queue jumps. It wouldn't
include going out of their way to put customers for like destinations in
the same cab

Strict grammatical interpretation aside, corralling punters going to the
same place is what actually happens.


but thanks anyway

In message , at 13:32:34 on Thu, 1 May
2014, tim..... remarked:
It doesn't say what marshalling is. A strict grammatical meaning would
simply be people making sure that no-one queue jumps. It wouldn't
include going out of their way to put customers for like destinations
in the same cab

In the past it's been very clear that it involves finding people to
share cabs to similar destinations.
--
Roland Perry

In message , at 13:27:45 on Thu, 1 May
2014, tim..... remarked:
I'd guess it meant that the last inbound was later than the last outbound.

I thought all the depots were at (or near) the extremities (Morden,
Rislip, Northfields etc)

When running only a few trains, they don't necessarily have to keep them
at depots overnight.

Yesterday the Border Agency systems broke, with queues of 90 minutes
to 2 hrs reported at some airports.

OMG !

This really is getting silly (and I wonder if one's insurance might
cover such a delay!)

Probably not, as it isn't a failure of transport.

so I can bus to Feltham.

And why, if it isn't actually the drivers that are on strike, are the
trains so sparse anyway?

It's one set of drivers, isn't it?

So why did the Northern run a near normal service (apparently)

Drivers all belong to another union?
--
Roland Perry

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at 19:02:47 on Wed, 30
Apr 2014, tim..... remarked:
I really need to know what this last train at 11:00, but outbound from
Central London at 9:30 claim, means.

That would mean last inbound at 9:00 on most lines, how is that 11:00?

I'd guess it meant that the last inbound was later than the last
outbound.

Of course my luck will depend upon whether HEx is running or not.
There's a perfectly usable HR connect at 10:29 which gives me an hour
to get from Padd to Vic on the bus. But if they are on strike again as
well [2] I'm kind of stuck unless my flights dead early and there isn't
a scrum at immigration

Yesterday the Border Agency systems broke, with queues of 90 minutes
to 2 hrs reported at some airports.

so I can bus to Feltham.

And why, if it isn't actually the drivers that are on strike, are the
trains so sparse anyway?

It's one set of drivers, isn't it?

I think that's where the 50% of trains running claim comes from, the lines
where none or few drivers were on strike.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 13:32:34 on Thu, 1 May
2014, tim..... remarked:
It doesn't say what marshalling is. A strict grammatical meaning would
simply be people making sure that no-one queue jumps. It wouldn't include
going out of their way to put customers for like destinations in the same
cab

In the past it's been very clear that it involves finding people to share
cabs to similar destinations.

but only if you already know that

which I don't

which is why I asked

tim

"Mizter T" wrote in message
...
On 01/05/2014 12:32, tim..... wrote:


"Mizter T" wrote in message
...

On 30/04/2014 18:02, tim..... wrote:

[central London to Heathrow during Tube strike]

I've got to do the reverse next week.

LHR to Vic after 10pm [1] to arrive for my last train at midnight.

I really need to know what this last train at 11:00, but outbound from
Central London at 9:30 claim, means.

That would mean last inbound at 9:00 on most lines, how is that 11:00?

Of course my luck will depend upon whether HEx is running or not.
There's a perfectly usable HR connect at 10:29 which gives me an hour
to
get from Padd to Vic on the bus. But if they are on strike again as
well [2] I'm kind of stuck unless my flights dead early and there isn't
a scrum at immigration so I can bus to Feltham.

HEx workers are not on strike next week.

Is that actually certain, or is it just they that haven't yet announced
that they will (though I guess it's now too late to do so)

Needs seven days notice.


Anyone know how the taxis are running. Many other countries would
organise "official" sharing in these circumstances, but I bet the
"brothers" aren't keen on that and are just taking the opportunity to
rake it in!

Taxi marshalling will be in operation, as is usual when there's a Tube
strike. See:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/press-releases/2014/april/tfl-sets-out-plans-to-keep-capital-moving-during-strikes


Only at Main line stations

In other countries, would organised marshalling/sharing be much more
widespread?

My only experience is in Scandinavia

and yes, that is exactly what they would do.

And I'm not talking about the cab rank at Vic putting together pax for KX,
pax for Padd etc.

I'm talking about at the airport putting together pax for Reading, pax for
Woking, pax for Watford etc. This would be routine, not something special
because of a rail strike. As yet I have no indication that this might be
done at LHR last week.

There must be an awful lot of people who wouldn't dream of paying 100 quid
for a journey like this in a cab, but would happily split it 4 ways, though
whether, as a percentage this number is significant when compared with the
number of OPMs who just catch a cab on their own because it doesn't matter
to them, I have no idea.

tim