Starts today, and featured on BBC TV local news.

Unhelpfully they show someone touching a reader and being told they've
been charged £1.35, that must be a bus, shirley?
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Roland Perry

On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 08:27:52 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
Starts today, and featured on BBC TV local news.

I'd be interested to know how much all this cost when there are somewhat more
pressing issues to sort out on the tube.

What idiots use contactless debut cards anyway with all the inherent security
risks? There's a reason for PINs. As soon as my bank sent me one of these damn
things I disabled it straight away by cutting through the antenna which also
has the added bonus that I can have it in my wallet with my oyster and not
have to worry at the gate.

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Spud

On 16/09/2014 12:37, d wrote:

On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 08:27:52 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
Starts today, and featured on BBC TV local news.

I'd be interested to know how much all this cost when there are somewhat more
pressing issues to sort out on the tube.

What idiots use contactless debut cards anyway with all the inherent security
risks? There's a reason for PINs. As soon as my bank sent me one of these damn
things I disabled it straight away by cutting through the antenna which also
has the added bonus that I can have it in my wallet with my oyster and not
have to worry at the gate.

It won't happen overnight, but I'm in little doubt that contactless
payments for public transport in London will prove to be a great success
(and will drive the adoption and usage of contactless to an extent).

On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 12:49:31 +0100
Mizter T wrote:
On 16/09/2014 12:37, d wrote:
It won't happen overnight, but I'm in little doubt that contactless
payments for public transport in London will prove to be a great success

Oh more than likely. The masses always put a minor increase in convenience
ahead of anything else despite what they may say.

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Spud

In article , (Mizter T) wrote:

On 16/09/2014 12:37, d wrote:

On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 08:27:52 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
Starts today, and featured on BBC TV local news.

I'd be interested to know how much all this cost when there are somewhat
more pressing issues to sort out on the tube.

What idiots use contactless debut cards anyway with all the inherent
security risks? There's a reason for PINs. As soon as my bank sent me
one of these damn things I disabled it straight away by cutting through
the antenna which also has the added bonus that I can have it in my
wallet with my oyster and not have to worry at the gate.

It won't happen overnight, but I'm in little doubt that contactless
payments for public transport in London will prove to be a great
success (and will drive the adoption and usage of contactless to an
extent).

They will be a big improvement for tube and bus travellers from outside
London who won't have to buy Oyster cards to use on their visits if they
don't was to be ripped off paying cash fares.

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Colin Rosenstiel

On 16/09/2014 12:37, d wrote:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 08:27:52 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
Starts today, and featured on BBC TV local news.

I'd be interested to know how much all this cost when there are somewhat more
pressing issues to sort out on the tube.

"The roll-out has cost a total of £66m, and TfL expects to more than
recover the £11m cost of software development by licensing it to other
transport operators around the world." according to
http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/u...in-london.html


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Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 19:39:24 +0100
Arthur Figgis wrote:
On 16/09/2014 12:37, d wrote:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 08:27:52 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
Starts today, and featured on BBC TV local news.

I'd be interested to know how much all this cost when there are somewhat more
pressing issues to sort out on the tube.

"The roll-out has cost a total of £66m, and TfL expects to more than
recover the £11m cost of software development by licensing it to other
transport operators around the world." according to
http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/u...less-payment-a
rives-in-london.html

Yeah, right - because its their technology developed in house. Not. The most
technical thing TfL can manage without outside help is a bit of train and
track maintenance.

--
Spud

On 2014-09-16, d
wrote:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 19:39:24 +0100
Arthur Figgis wrote:
On 16/09/2014 12:37, d wrote:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 08:27:52 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
Starts today, and featured on BBC TV local news.

I'd be interested to know how much all this cost when there are somewhat
more pressing issues to sort out on the tube.

"The roll-out has cost a total of ?66m, and TfL expects to more than
recover the ?11m cost of software development by licensing it to other
transport operators around the world." according to
http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/u...w/contactless-
payment-arrives-in-london.html

Yeah, right - because its their technology developed in house. Not. The most
technical thing TfL can manage without outside help is a bit of train and
track maintenance.

If companies didn't contract stuff out, where would you be? And if the
contract isn't clear about ownership of what you create they are crazy.

Eric
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ms fnd in a lbry

On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 08:23:04 +0100
Eric wrote:
On 2014-09-16, d
wrote:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 19:39:24 +0100
Arthur Figgis wrote:
On 16/09/2014 12:37, d wrote:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 08:27:52 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
Starts today, and featured on BBC TV local news.

I'd be interested to know how much all this cost when there are somewhat
more pressing issues to sort out on the tube.

"The roll-out has cost a total of ?66m, and TfL expects to more than
recover the ?11m cost of software development by licensing it to other
transport operators around the world." according to
http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/u...w/contactless-
payment-arrives-in-london.html

Yeah, right - because its their technology developed in house. Not. The most
technical thing TfL can manage without outside help is a bit of train and
track maintenance.

If companies didn't contract stuff out, where would you be? And if the
contract isn't clear about ownership of what you create they are crazy.

So TfL owns the right to the MiFare system, smart card readers and contactless
bank cards does it? Umm , no. So what is left - the gates and the backend
software? They're probably little use other than the overall design to any other
metro system. TfL pretending its going to license this is like McDonalds saying
their going to license burger flipping.

--
Spud

d wrote:

What idiots use contactless debut cards anyway with all the inherent
security
risks? There's a reason for PINs. As soon as my bank sent me one of these
damn
things I disabled it straight away by cutting through the antenna which
also
has the added bonus that I can have it in my wallet with my oyster and not
have to worry at the gate.

How many banks are doing contactless as default now? All my debit cards are
a few years old and none have it whilst a credit card renewed this summer
didn't either.

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