On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 11:38:28 +0000, Dickie mint
wrote:


"HS2 'slowly dying’ as Euston terminus plan grinds to halt
Design work on HS2 at Euston station "stopped" due to scheme's "costs
and benefits" being "unaffordable", according to minutes seen by The
Sunday Telegraph "

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...s-to-halt.html


We can but hope this an end of the "Tube to Birmingham". It could be
the salvation of the rest of the UK Rail System.

Perhaps now thoughts can return to real congestion relief. Full
restoration of the GW route to Birmingham, and dealing with the ECML's
bottlenecks would be a good start.

"e27002 aurora" wrote in message
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On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 11:38:28 +0000, Dickie mint
wrote:


"HS2 'slowly dying' as Euston terminus plan grinds to halt
Design work on HS2 at Euston station "stopped" due to scheme's "costs
and benefits" being "unaffordable", according to minutes seen by The
Sunday Telegraph "

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...s-to-halt.html


We can but hope this an end of the "Tube to Birmingham". It could be
the salvation of the rest of the UK Rail System.

Perhaps now thoughts can return to real congestion relief. Full
restoration of the GW route to Birmingham, and dealing with the ECML's
bottlenecks would be a good start.

I would like to see money that would have gone into HS2 used to extend and
improve existing services and to reopen Beeching Axe routes where roads are
congested. Train frequency and overcrowding are FAR FAR more important than
improvements to journey times.

Only when all congested routes have been attended to should we even THINK
about improving journey times using HS2.

But it won't happen. As with the roll-out of 4G mobile phone networks, the
emphasis is on giving those who already have a good service an even better
one, rather than on giving those who do not have a usable service an
improved, minimum-standard service.

On 23/11/2014 12:54, NY wrote:
..... and to reopen Beeching Axe routes where
roads are congested. Train frequency and overcrowding are FAR FAR more
important than improvements to journey times.

Only when all congested routes have been attended to should we even
THINK about improving journey times using HS2.
Can we start with re-opening the Great Central?
Perhaps that would qualify, as not only are the roads congested but also
are the railways.
That was even designed for higher speeds. Of course some bits need new
alignment because of developments, and some would need to be in tunnels,
because of increased sensitivity of environments in say Chilterns.

A spur could be added to Birmingham, but I doubt if Marylebone could
cope with traffic so it might need a new terminus.
We could even give it a new name... HS2

Jim

In message , at 16:38:35 on Sun, 23 Nov
2014, Jim Chisholm remarked:

Can we start with re-opening the Great Central?

Only if you want to close very many things built on it.
--
Roland Perry