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Basil Jet[_4_] January 21st 15 08:05 AM

The Fleet Line - Don't Jubilee've It!
 

Just wondering... did the person who decided that the Fleet
Line should be renamed the Jubilee Line get their knighthood?

Peter Johnson[_2_] January 21st 15 11:00 AM

The Fleet Line - Don't Jubilee've It!
 
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 09:05:26 +0000, Basil Jet
wrote:


Just wondering... did the person who decided that the Fleet
Line should be renamed the Jubilee Line get their knighthood?


If I remember correctly it was Ken Livingston so I shouldn't imagine
he wants one.

Basil Jet[_4_] January 21st 15 11:03 AM

The Fleet Line - Don't Jubilee've It!
 
On 2015\01\21 12:00, Peter Johnson wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 09:05:26 +0000, Basil Jet
wrote:


Just wondering... did the person who decided that the Fleet
Line should be renamed the Jubilee Line get their knighthood?


If I remember correctly it was Ken Livingston so I shouldn't imagine
he wants one.


astonished

respectfully disbelieving

Recliner[_3_] January 21st 15 11:26 AM

The Fleet Line - Don't Jubilee've It!
 
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 12:03:25 +0000, Basil Jet
wrote:

On 2015\01\21 12:00, Peter Johnson wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 09:05:26 +0000, Basil Jet
wrote:


Just wondering... did the person who decided that the Fleet
Line should be renamed the Jubilee Line get their knighthood?


If I remember correctly it was Ken Livingston so I shouldn't imagine
he wants one.


astonished

respectfully disbelieving


I find it hard to believe, too. The line was renamed in about 1975-77,
well before Ken Livingstone's time as leader of the GLC. This is what
Wikipedia says:

"The new line was to have been called the Fleet line after the River
Fleet (although it would only have crossed under the Fleet at Ludgate
Circus; the central London section mostly follows the Tyburn). In
1975, when plans were under way to introduce the London Transport
Silver Jubilee Bus fleet, the then Sales Manager of London Transport
Advertising, Geoffrey Holliman, proposed to the Chairman of LTE,
Kenneth Robinson, that the Fleet line should be renamed the Jubilee
line. However, this idea was rejected because of the additional costs
involved. Nevertheless, the project was subsequently renamed the
Jubilee line for Queen Elizabeth II's 1977 Silver Jubilee following a
pledge made by the Conservatives in the Greater London Council
election of 1977. The original choice of battleship grey for the
line's colour was based on the naval meaning of the word fleet; this
became a lighter grey, representing the silver colour of the Jubilee
itself."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jubilee...the_Fleet_line

The GLC leaders during that time were Sir Reg Goodwin (1973-77) and
Sir Horace Cutler (1977-81). If I had to guess, I'd think it was Sir
Horace Cutler who made the decision. He was knighted in 1979.

[email protected] January 21st 15 11:49 AM

The Fleet Line - Don't Jubilee've It!
 
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 09:05:26 +0000
Basil Jet wrote:
Just wondering... did the person who decided that the Fleet
Line should be renamed the Jubilee Line get their knighthood?


I'm glad they did rename it. The Fleet Line sounds like a cut price bus
company.

--
Spud


Basil Jet[_4_] January 21st 15 12:04 PM

The Fleet Line - Don't Jubilee've It!
 
On 2015\01\21 12:26, Recliner wrote:

If I had to guess, I'd think it was Sir
Horace Cutler who made the decision. He was knighted in 1979.


Thanks!


[email protected] January 21st 15 02:38 PM

The Fleet Line - Don't Jubilee've It!
 
In article , (Basil Jet)
wrote:

Just wondering... did the person who decided that the Fleet
Line should be renamed the Jubilee Line get their knighthood?


It was Horace Cutler and at the time all GLC leaders got knighthoods at some
point, like Lord Mayors of London.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Recliner[_3_] January 21st 15 03:14 PM

The Fleet Line - Don't Jubilee've It!
 
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 09:38:20 -0600,
wrote:

In article ,
(Basil Jet)
wrote:

Just wondering... did the person who decided that the Fleet
Line should be renamed the Jubilee Line get their knighthood?


It was Horace Cutler and at the time all GLC leaders got knighthoods at some
point, like Lord Mayors of London.


Yes, I think all the GLC leaders until Ken Livingstone were knighted,
and some went on to become peers. I don't know if Ken was offered one,
but presume he'd have turned it down if he was.

David Cantrell January 22nd 15 10:08 AM

The Fleet Line - Don't Jubilee've It!
 
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:26:22PM +0000, Recliner wrote:

In 1975 ... Geoffrey Holliman, proposed to the Chairman of LTE,
Kenneth Robinson, that the Fleet line should be renamed the Jubilee
line. However, this idea was rejected because of the additional costs
involved.


So two years before the jubilee, and four years before it opened. What
on earth are those "additional costs"?

--
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Did you know that shotguns taste like candy canes? Put the barrel in
your mouth and pull the trigger for an extra blast of minty goodness!

Offramp January 22nd 15 12:23 PM

The Fleet Line - Don't Jubilee've It!
 
On Wednesday, 21 January 2015 09:05:28 UTC, Basil Jet wrote:
Just wondering... did the person who decided that the Fleet
Line should be renamed the Jubilee Line get their knighthood?


Many people think that the Jubilee's colour is silver; in fact it is officially grey.

Another trivium: the Victoria Line was going to be called the Viking Line, because it connected VIctoria and KING's Cross.


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