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Just wondering... did the person who decided that the Fleet
Line should be renamed the Jubilee Line get their knighthood?

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On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 09:05:26 +0000, Basil Jet
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Just wondering... did the person who decided that the Fleet
Line should be renamed the Jubilee Line get their knighthood?


If I remember correctly it was Ken Livingston so I shouldn't imagine
he wants one.
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On 2015\01\21 12:00, Peter Johnson wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 09:05:26 +0000, Basil Jet
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Just wondering... did the person who decided that the Fleet
Line should be renamed the Jubilee Line get their knighthood?


If I remember correctly it was Ken Livingston so I shouldn't imagine
he wants one.


astonished

respectfully disbelieving
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On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 12:03:25 +0000, Basil Jet
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On 2015\01\21 12:00, Peter Johnson wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 09:05:26 +0000, Basil Jet
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Just wondering... did the person who decided that the Fleet
Line should be renamed the Jubilee Line get their knighthood?


If I remember correctly it was Ken Livingston so I shouldn't imagine
he wants one.


astonished

respectfully disbelieving


I find it hard to believe, too. The line was renamed in about 1975-77,
well before Ken Livingstone's time as leader of the GLC. This is what
Wikipedia says:

"The new line was to have been called the Fleet line after the River
Fleet (although it would only have crossed under the Fleet at Ludgate
Circus; the central London section mostly follows the Tyburn). In
1975, when plans were under way to introduce the London Transport
Silver Jubilee Bus fleet, the then Sales Manager of London Transport
Advertising, Geoffrey Holliman, proposed to the Chairman of LTE,
Kenneth Robinson, that the Fleet line should be renamed the Jubilee
line. However, this idea was rejected because of the additional costs
involved. Nevertheless, the project was subsequently renamed the
Jubilee line for Queen Elizabeth II's 1977 Silver Jubilee following a
pledge made by the Conservatives in the Greater London Council
election of 1977. The original choice of battleship grey for the
line's colour was based on the naval meaning of the word fleet; this
became a lighter grey, representing the silver colour of the Jubilee
itself."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jubilee...the_Fleet_line

The GLC leaders during that time were Sir Reg Goodwin (1973-77) and
Sir Horace Cutler (1977-81). If I had to guess, I'd think it was Sir
Horace Cutler who made the decision. He was knighted in 1979.
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On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 09:05:26 +0000
Basil Jet wrote:
Just wondering... did the person who decided that the Fleet
Line should be renamed the Jubilee Line get their knighthood?


I'm glad they did rename it. The Fleet Line sounds like a cut price bus
company.

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On 2015\01\21 12:26, Recliner wrote:

If I had to guess, I'd think it was Sir
Horace Cutler who made the decision. He was knighted in 1979.


Thanks!

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On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:26:22PM +0000, Recliner wrote:

In 1975 ... Geoffrey Holliman, proposed to the Chairman of LTE,
Kenneth Robinson, that the Fleet line should be renamed the Jubilee
line. However, this idea was rejected because of the additional costs
involved.


So two years before the jubilee, and four years before it opened. What
on earth are those "additional costs"?

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On Wednesday, 21 January 2015 09:05:28 UTC, Basil Jet wrote:
Just wondering... did the person who decided that the Fleet
Line should be renamed the Jubilee Line get their knighthood?


Many people think that the Jubilee's colour is silver; in fact it is officially grey.

Another trivium: the Victoria Line was going to be called the Viking Line, because it connected VIctoria and KING's Cross.


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