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Mizter T February 27th 15 03:09 PM

Cycle hire goes red with Santander
 
Santander Bank is the new sponsor of the TfL cycle hire scheme, in a
deal worth £6.25 million that will run for seven years.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/press-releases/2015/february/mayor-announces-santander-as-new-cycle-hire-sponsor

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-31655363

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/feb/27/london-boris-bikes-painted-red-santander-sponsorship-deal

Some hack obviously ask in 'jest' (in the loosest sense of the word -
unlikely to get a booking at a stand up night) whether the new colour
had any political significance, to which Boris said "of course it has,
I'm now a dyed in the wool communist, and tomorrow I shall rename
Trafalgar Square as Red Square". Except of course he didn't - if he had,
I imagine the new sponsor might not have been particularly amused.

Regarding the schemes eponymous nickname, Bozza said "If anyone still
persists in calling them 'Boris bikes' rather than Santander I will
change my name to Santander Johnson."

I'd imagine that privately, Team Boris is pleased that Boris Bikes and
Boris Buses entered the lexicon. I have to say that I came round to
calling them 'Boris Bikes' in preference to 'Barclays Bikes' ('cycle
hire bikes' being a mouthful), especially given that the Barclays
sponsorship started under that unimpeachable doyenne of modern banking,
Bob Diamond - and said sponsorship was negotiated in a rather unorthodox
manner between Boris and his good mate Bob (which was subsequently
criticised in an Assembly report - I understand TfL now have proper
procedures in place for sponsorship opportunities).

A slight change of name is also on the agenda - from "Barclays Cycle
Hire" to "Santander Cycles", which will rather suggests to those who
don't know better that the scheme is owned, or at least fully financed
by Santander. Whatever, I quite like the idea of the bikes being bright
red. Oh, and Santander beat Coca-Cola, purveyor of services to dentistry
and diabetes, which is good.

I wonder how long the new and old branding will be seen side by side out
on the street - the TfL home page has a splash of Santander red, along
with a link to Barclays Cycle Hire lower down. The new deal starts in April.

Roland Perry February 27th 15 03:28 PM

Cycle hire goes red with Santander
 
In message , at 16:09:32 on Fri, 27 Feb
2015, Mizter T remarked:
Regarding the schemes eponymous nickname, Bozza said "If anyone still
persists in calling them 'Boris bikes' rather than Santander I will
change my name to Santander Johnson."


I expect the name could be as long lived as :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belisha_beacon

or even:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wellington_boot

Any older offerings with a vague transport connection?
--
Roland Perry

Mizter T February 27th 15 04:00 PM

Cycle hire goes red with Santander
 

On 27/02/2015 16:28, Roland Perry wrote:

In message , at 16:09:32 on Fri, 27 Feb
2015, Mizter T remarked:
Regarding the schemes eponymous nickname, Bozza said "If anyone still
persists in calling them 'Boris bikes' rather than Santander I will
change my name to Santander Johnson."


I expect the name could be as long lived as :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belisha_beacon

or even:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wellington_boot

Any older offerings with a vague transport connection?


William Baker, of Baker Street - partial (and unwitting) contributor to
the Bakerloo line name. Started laying out the street in 1755:

http://blackcablondon.net/2012/08/08/baker-street-part-one-tubes-beatles-lost-property/

Perhaps fortuitous that the flashing beacons accompanying zebra
crossings took the second part of Leslie's double-barrelled surname,
rather than the first.

Roland Perry February 27th 15 06:53 PM

Cycle hire goes red with Santander
 
In message , at 17:00:55 on Fri, 27 Feb
2015, Mizter T remarked:
Regarding the schemes eponymous nickname, Bozza said "If anyone still
persists in calling them 'Boris bikes' rather than Santander I will
change my name to Santander Johnson."


I expect the name could be as long lived as :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belisha_beacon

or even:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wellington_boot

Any older offerings with a vague transport connection?


William Baker, of Baker Street - partial (and unwitting) contributor to
the Bakerloo line name. Started laying out the street in 1755


That beats Lord Liverpool (after whom a Street is named) or William
Praed. But St James's Park dates to 1603, and Leicester Square to 1630.

I'll offer St Pauls's and 604 as the oldest yet. Can anyone beat that?
--
Roland Perry

Basil Jet[_4_] February 27th 15 07:03 PM

Cycle hire goes red with Santander
 
On 2015\02\27 19:53, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 17:00:55 on Fri, 27 Feb
2015, Mizter T remarked:
Regarding the schemes eponymous nickname, Bozza said "If anyone still
persists in calling them 'Boris bikes' rather than Santander I will
change my name to Santander Johnson."

I expect the name could be as long lived as :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belisha_beacon

or even:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wellington_boot

Any older offerings with a vague transport connection?


William Baker, of Baker Street - partial (and unwitting) contributor
to the Bakerloo line name. Started laying out the street in 1755


That beats Lord Liverpool (after whom a Street is named) or William
Praed. But St James's Park dates to 1603, and Leicester Square to 1630.

I'll offer St Pauls's and 604 as the oldest yet. Can anyone beat that?


London Wall?
Aldgate?
Aldersgate?
London Bridge?
Tower Hill?
City Thameslink?
I'm not sure I understand the question.

Roland Perry February 27th 15 08:08 PM

Cycle hire goes red with Santander
 
In message , at 20:03:51 on Fri, 27 Feb
2015, Basil Jet remarked:
Regarding the schemes eponymous nickname, Bozza said "If anyone still
persists in calling them 'Boris bikes' rather than Santander I will
change my name to Santander Johnson."

I expect the name could be as long lived as :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belisha_beacon

or even:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wellington_boot

Any older offerings with a vague transport connection?

William Baker, of Baker Street - partial (and unwitting) contributor
to the Bakerloo line name. Started laying out the street in 1755


That beats Lord Liverpool (after whom a Street is named) or William
Praed. But St James's Park dates to 1603, and Leicester Square to 1630.

I'll offer St Pauls's and 604 as the oldest yet. Can anyone beat that?


London Wall?
Aldgate?
Aldersgate?
London Bridge?
Tower Hill?
City Thameslink?
I'm not sure I understand the question.


Transport things named after a person from long ago.
--
Roland Perry

Basil Jet[_4_] February 27th 15 08:29 PM

Cycle hire goes red with Santander
 
On 2015\02\27 21:08, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 20:03:51 on Fri, 27 Feb
2015, Basil Jet remarked:
Regarding the schemes eponymous nickname, Bozza said "If anyone still
persists in calling them 'Boris bikes' rather than Santander I will
change my name to Santander Johnson."

I expect the name could be as long lived as :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belisha_beacon

or even:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wellington_boot

Any older offerings with a vague transport connection?

William Baker, of Baker Street - partial (and unwitting) contributor
to the Bakerloo line name. Started laying out the street in 1755

That beats Lord Liverpool (after whom a Street is named) or William
Praed. But St James's Park dates to 1603, and Leicester Square to 1630.

I'll offer St Pauls's and 604 as the oldest yet. Can anyone beat that?


London Wall?
Aldgate?
Aldersgate?
London Bridge?
Tower Hill?
City Thameslink?
I'm not sure I understand the question.


Transport things named after a person from long ago.


Christ's Hospital
Godalming
Je-Hove-ah
Ashby-de-la-Zeus

Seriously, Aspatria is named after St Patrick.

Michael R N Dolbear February 28th 15 01:30 AM

Cycle hire goes red with Santander
 
"Roland Perry" wrote

I'm not sure I understand the question.


Transport things named after a person from long ago.



Mark Lane.



--
Mike D

Roland Perry February 28th 15 08:53 AM

Cycle hire goes red with Santander
 
In message , at 20:26:25 on
Fri, 27 Feb 2015, remarked:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 20:03:51 +0000, Basil Jet
wrote:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wellington_boot

Any older offerings with a vague transport connection?

William Baker, of Baker Street - partial (and unwitting) contributor
to the Bakerloo line name. Started laying out the street in 1755

That beats Lord Liverpool (after whom a Street is named) or William
Praed. But St James's Park dates to 1603, and Leicester Square to 1630.

I'll offer St Pauls's and 604 as the oldest yet. Can anyone beat that?


London Wall?
Aldgate?
Aldersgate?
London Bridge?
Tower Hill?
City Thameslink?
I'm not sure I understand the question.


I think Roland means items named after a person( s) .
As he said a vague transport connection I reckon Hadrians wall as
contolling passage between the areas it divided may count and be a
contender .


I think it would count, yes. (AD122)

I suppose somebody will now pop up with a stone tablet on
which it will show that Stonehenge was really a Roundabout.


--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry February 28th 15 09:01 AM

Cycle hire goes red with Santander
 
In message , at 21:29:04 on Fri, 27 Feb
2015, Basil Jet remarked:

I'll offer St Pauls's and 604 as the oldest yet. Can anyone beat that?

London Wall?
Aldgate?
Aldersgate?
London Bridge?
Tower Hill?
City Thameslink?
I'm not sure I understand the question.


Transport things named after a person from long ago.


Christ's Hospital


The station only dates from 1902, and the hospital's not as old as St
Paul's. But if are going to drill back, then St Paul was born in 5AD
(and Hadrian in 76AD)

Godalming
Je-Hove-ah
Ashby-de-la-Zeus

Seriously, Aspatria is named after St Patrick.


He was born in 387. The town is also apparently named after "St
Patrick's Ash Tree".
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry February 28th 15 09:29 AM

Cycle hire goes red with Santander
 
In message , at 02:30:31 on Sat, 28
Feb 2015, Michael R N Dolbear remarked:
Transport things named after a person from long ago.


Mark Lane.


That's named after a nearby Mart/Market.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry February 28th 15 09:35 AM

Cycle hire goes red with Santander
 
In message , at 10:01:12 on Sat, 28
Feb 2015, Roland Perry remarked:
I'll offer St Pauls's and 604 as the oldest yet. Can anyone beat that?

London Wall?
Aldgate?
Aldersgate?
London Bridge?
Tower Hill?
City Thameslink?
I'm not sure I understand the question.

Transport things named after a person from long ago.


Christ's Hospital


The station only dates from 1902, and the hospital's not as old as St
Paul's. But if are going to drill back, then St Paul was born in 5AD
(and Hadrian in 76AD)


On second thoughts, I'm going to narrow the definition to things
commissioned by the person. So Boris/Wellington/Belisha/Hadrian count,
but St Paul's and Christ's don't.

Nor does Cleopatra's Needle (and it's not transport related either).
Thutmose's Needle doesn't have quite such a ring to it...
--
Roland Perry

Theo Markettos February 28th 15 05:35 PM

Cycle hire goes red with Santander
 
Roland Perry wrote:
On second thoughts, I'm going to narrow the definition to things
commissioned by the person. So Boris/Wellington/Belisha/Hadrian count,
but St Paul's and Christ's don't.

Nor does Cleopatra's Needle (and it's not transport related either).
Thutmose's Needle doesn't have quite such a ring to it...


I don't think it's meaningful to count places in this definition.

It's natural for humans to name places. Commonly places are named after
geographical features (South Bend, Midhurst) or people (Pennsylvania,
Edinburgh). In the British Isles they're frequently named in languages we
don't speak any more, but that's beside the point. Some places with
'people' names are actually 'feature' names - St Mary Cray is named after
the church dedicated to St Mary the Virgin, which is a thing not a person.

So Baker St, Russell Square and so on may have been commissioned by those
people - but the stations aren't named after people, they're named after
places named after people. There are an awful lot of things named after
people, many of whom had some hand in the place that bears their name, and
most of those places will have some transport connection (eg a bus stop).

So, anyway, back to things commissioned by people (that are still in common
usage)...

Theo

Dr J R Stockton[_41_] February 28th 15 08:10 PM

Cycle hire goes red with Santander
 
In uk.transport.london message ,
Fri, 27 Feb 2015 21:08:15, Roland Perry posted:


Transport things named after a person from long ago.


Adam and Eve Mews, London W8 6UJ, http://goo.gl/maps/n3yIS - unless
you wish to be pedantic about your "a".


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David Cantrell March 2nd 15 11:31 AM

Cycle hire goes red with Santander
 
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 10:01:12AM +0000, Roland Perry wrote:

The station only dates from 1902, and the hospital's not as old as St
Paul's. But if are going to drill back, then St Paul was born in 5AD
(and Hadrian in 76AD)


The Via Flaminia was named after Gaius Flaminius and built around 220BC.
There are numerous tram stops and a railway station named for the road.

--
David Cantrell | Reality Engineer, Ministry of Information

More people are driven insane through religious hysteria than
by drinking alcohol. -- W C Fields

Roland Perry March 2nd 15 11:50 AM

Cycle hire goes red with Santander
 
In message , at 12:31:35
on Mon, 2 Mar 2015, David Cantrell remarked:
The station only dates from 1902, and the hospital's not as old as St
Paul's. But if are going to drill back, then St Paul was born in 5AD
(and Hadrian in 76AD)


The Via Flaminia was named after Gaius Flaminius and built around 220BC.
There are numerous tram stops and a railway station named for the road.


The Appian Way (after Appius Claudius Caecus) is about 90 years older.
--
Roland Perry


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