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Tufnell Park
I just noticed that Tufnell Park is shut because the lifts are being replaced. So I suppose closing the existing entrance and building a new Underground / Overground interchange at Station Road with escalators cutting diagonally down to the existing Northern Line platforms is off the menu for another 40 years. |
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On Friday, 22 May 2015 06:34:12 UTC+1, Basil Jet wrote:
I just noticed that Tufnell Park is shut because the lifts are being replaced. So I suppose closing the existing entrance and building a new Underground / Overground interchange at Station Road with escalators cutting diagonally down to the existing Northern Line platforms is off the menu for another 40 years. Tuffers was one of those stations that had a rather annoying lift/escalator characteristic. At the top landing the lift goes almost to street level. There is a further flight of about 10 steps. At the lower level the lift goes almost to platform level - there is a flight of about 20 steps. Lots of other stations have this charming idiosyncracy. It's a major design flaw. |
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03:48:57 on Fri, 22 May 2015, Offramp remarked: I just noticed that Tufnell Park is shut because the lifts are being replaced. So I suppose closing the existing entrance and building a new Underground / Overground interchange at Station Road with escalators cutting diagonally down to the existing Northern Line platforms is off the menu for another 40 years. Tuffers was one of those stations that had a rather annoying lift/escalator characteristic. At the top landing the lift goes almost to street level. There is a further flight of about 10 steps. At the lower level the lift goes almost to platform level - there is a flight of about 20 steps. Lots of other stations have this charming idiosyncracy. It's a major design flaw. The former is usually because there needs to be a mini concourse which has access to both platforms, and it can't be any lower because the tracks are in the way. I'll speculate that the latter is so that the lift's machinery room can be at ground level. -- Roland Perry |
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On 22.05.15 6:34, Basil Jet wrote:
I just noticed that Tufnell Park is shut because the lifts are being replaced. So I suppose closing the existing entrance and building a new Underground / Overground interchange at Station Road with escalators cutting diagonally down to the existing Northern Line platforms is off the menu for another 40 years. I also heard about this. Is there a reason that they cannot replace one lift at a time in those nine months, thus avoiding the need to shut down the station? Could they not pull two lifts while making people use the down stairs? |
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On 22.05.15 9:21, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Fri, 22 May 2015 06:34:10 +0100, Basil Jet wrote: I just noticed that Tufnell Park is shut because the lifts are being replaced. So I suppose closing the existing entrance and building a new Underground / Overground interchange at Station Road with escalators cutting diagonally down to the existing Northern Line platforms is off the menu for another 40 years. More like 100 years, if ever. There is no Mayoral policy to add stations to the rail network in London nor to properly improve interchange despite the myriad locations where this could be done with some money and imagination. What about a direct physical connection, likely underground, between Dalston Kingsland and Dalston Junction? |
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On Friday, 22 May 2015 12:31:58 UTC+1, Roland Perry wrote:
Tuffers was one of those stations that had a rather annoying lift/escalator characteristic. The former is usually because there needs to be a mini concourse which has access to both platforms, and it can't be any lower because the tracks are in the way. I'll speculate that the latter is so that the lift's machinery room can be at ground level. -- Roland Perry Aye. That does make sense. But at stations such as the Claphams North & Common, at the bottom, platform end there is only one platform at the end of the escalator, and a flight of stairs to reach them. Angel may have had the same problem, as well as the other island platform Northern Line station, London Bridge. These last two were vastly rearranged, of course. |
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On 22.05.15 6:34, Basil Jet wrote: I just noticed that Tufnell Park is shut because the lifts are being replaced. So I suppose closing the existing entrance and building a new Underground / Overground interchange at Station Road with escalators cutting diagonally down to the existing Northern Line platforms is off the menu for another 40 years. I also heard about this. Is there a reason that they cannot replace one lift at a time in those nine months, thus avoiding the need to shut down the station? Could they not pull two lifts while making people use the down stairs? I believe the two lifts share a single shaft, so it's much more efficient to replace both at once. And it's regarded as risky to operate the station for many months with only one life-expired lift in operation. Normally, if one lift gets stuck, the other can be used to evacuate the passengers from it, but this wouldn't be possibly with only one working. |
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11:22:24 on Fri, 22 May 2015, Offramp remarked: Tuffers was one of those stations that had a rather annoying lift/escalator characteristic. The former is usually because there needs to be a mini concourse which has access to both platforms, and it can't be any lower because the tracks are in the way. I'll speculate that the latter is so that the lift's machinery room can be at ground level. Aye. That does make sense. But at stations such as the Claphams North & Common, at the bottom, platform end there is only one platform at the end of the escalator, and a flight of stairs to reach them. Even with an island platform, the tracks would have to diverge in order to fit around the bottom of escalators, and diverge enormously to get past lift shafts and their circulating areas. Were any of the island-platform stations originally built with escalators? Angel had lifts, and the entrance was moved round the corner during the rebuild to accommodate the horizontal reach of the new escalators. -- Roland Perry |
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