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Boris buses and their flat batteries
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 10:26:57 +0100
Neil Williams wrote: A professional driver needs to drive to the capability of their vehicle. Perhaps reduced acceleration will stop the passengers being A professional driver yes, but we're talking london bus drivers here. I'm not sure I'd class all of them as having a professional approach to the job. c) the electrical system failing meaning loss of steering control - this has happened umpteen times. *Loss* of steering control, or just loss of power-assist? I didn't Almost certainly the latter, though in such a large vehicle it will be almost impossible to turn the wheel when stationary if the power assist has died. -- Spud |
Boris buses and their flat batteries
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On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 10:26:57 +0100 Neil Williams wrote: A professional driver needs to drive to the capability of their vehicle. Perhaps reduced acceleration will stop the passengers being A professional driver yes, but we're talking london bus drivers here. I'm not sure I'd class all of them as having a professional approach to the job. c) the electrical system failing meaning loss of steering control - this has happened umpteen times. *Loss* of steering control, or just loss of power-assist? I didn't Almost certainly the latter, though in such a large vehicle it will be almost impossible to turn the wheel when stationary if the power assist has died. Yes, I agree. Some amount of power steering would be essential with a heavy bus. I'm guessing it has speed sensitive power steering, that should provide more assistance at low speeds, but is failing to do so. My car is like that, and sometimes if the battery is very low and only just capable of starting the car, you don't initially get that extra assistance. The car remains perfectly drivable, but steering at low speeds just needs a bit more effort. It seems like the brake assist computer doesn't boot properly if the battery is low; if your turn off and start again, everything goes back to normal. The problem never occurs if the battery is properly or even half charged, so the problem isn't easily repeatable: once you've been running for a few minutes, the problem doesn't occur. |
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On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 09:52:48 +0100 Paul Corfield wrote: The allegations include a) brake / handbrake problems. b) slow acceleration meaning risk of misjudging moves into traffic. c) the electrical system failing meaning loss of steering control - this has happened umpteen times. http://www.mayorwatch.co.uk/londoner...-con-that-is-t e-boris-bus/ I might be more inclined to believe what he said if he got some basic facts right. "The fact that they cannot operate on their electric motors because of battery failure" They're serial hybrids, the electric motors are the only things turning the wheels. The diesel engine is a generator. "Some buses disengage from gears" What gears? Does he mean it comes out of drive mode? “The most unreliable and poorly engineered bus that has ever been made†Obviously this guy has a short memory. When boris buses start spontainiously bursting into flames then perhaps he might have a point. Who wrote this - oh Mr Wolmar, a well known source of unbiased commentary. *cough* Yup, it's all part of his mayoral campaign, and that document looks like it was put together by Unite. Wolmar is busy flying the red flag in the hope of being backed by local lefties. |
Boris buses and their flat batteries
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 15:32:17 +0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote: Yup, it's all part of his mayoral campaign, and that document looks like it was put together by Unite. Wolmar is busy flying the red flag in the hope of being backed by local lefties. Perhaps we'll see him and Comrade Corbyn doing an open top bus campaign tour around London. Wouldn't be a Boris Bus of course even if there was a cabriolet version. -- Spud |
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On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 15:32:17 +0000 (UTC) Recliner wrote: Yup, it's all part of his mayoral campaign, and that document looks like it was put together by Unite. Wolmar is busy flying the red flag in the hope of being backed by local lefties. Perhaps we'll see him and Comrade Corbyn doing an open top bus campaign tour around London. Wouldn't be a Boris Bus of course even if there was a cabriolet version. I think that bus has already been booked by Diane Abbott and Comrade Corbyn. Wolmar will have to cycle behind it. |
Boris buses and their flat batteries
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y;149428 Wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 09:52:48 +0100 Paul Corfield wrote:- The allegations include a) brake / handbrake problems. b) slow acceleration meaning risk of misjudging moves into traffic. c) the electrical system failing meaning loss of steering control - this has happened umpteen times. http://tinyurl.com/oha9v7v e-boris-bus/- I might be more inclined to believe what he said if he got some basic facts right. "The fact that they cannot operate on their electric motors because of battery failure" They're serial hybrids, the electric motors are the only things turning the wheels. The diesel engine is a generator. "Some buses disengage from gears" What gears? Does he mean it comes out of drive mode? “The most unreliable and poorly engineered bus that has ever been made†Obviously this guy has a short memory. When boris buses start spontainiously bursting into flames then perhaps he might have a point. Who wrote this - oh Mr Wolmar, a well known source of unbiased commentary. *cough* -- Spud Mr. Wolmar was recently on Venessa Feltz's phone-in programme on BBC Radio London. He made a fool of himself and came across as a gormless bigot. For example, on the question of Council Housing (or whatever euphemism they're using this month) he maintained that the only reason houses were not being built in large numbers in London was the hostility of Tory controlled local authorities. When Venessa Feltz pointed ou that local authorities not controlled by the Tories were also not building houses he denied the assertion. When she reminded him that many Council Leaders had told her - and of course her "lovely listeners" - that the reason they were not building them was the "right-to-buy" legislation, he insisted that was not true! He was similarly bigoted on the subject of cars. Anyone who votes for such a mindless muppet deserves all they get. He's certainly very anti-car, so much so that he refuses to use them in his endless campaign to become Labour mayoral candidate. It's completely dominated his life for the last year, and it's made him more and more left wing as he tries to appeal to local constituency activists. I can't imagine what he has to offer them that the other candidates, all experienced London MPs, can't, but failing to do so probably makes him increasingly desperate and eccentric. It also means he has little time to keep up with his former specialist subject, transport. And, of course, next year, when he's no longer a would-be politician, he won't have a new railway book to promote. |
Boris buses and their flat batteries
On 21/07/2015 21:52, Recliner wrote:
[...] And, of course, next year, when he's no longer a would-be politician, he won't have a new railway book to promote. He might have a "I ran for the Mayoral nomination" book... |
Boris buses and their flat batteries
Mizter T wrote:
On 21/07/2015 21:52, Recliner wrote: [...] And, of course, next year, when he's no longer a would-be politician, he won't have a new railway book to promote. He might have a "I ran for the Mayoral nomination" book... I think that's the book he writes next year, to sell in 2017. |
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