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Recliner[_3_] July 24th 15 08:02 AM

New GatEx unit on test at Derby
 
That was quick! The first 387/2 unit destined for Gatwick Express is now
on static test at Derby:

Quote:
Static testing of the first of the Class 387/2 Electrostar electric
multiple-unit cars ordered for Gatwick Express services has begun at
Bombardier Transportation’s Derby plant.

The 27 four-car Class 387/2 EMUs are scheduled to enter service between
London Victoria station and Gatwick airport in 2016, replacing 1980s-built
Class 442 EMUs which have been used on the route since 2008.

The £145·2m order for the Class 387/2 EMUs was signed by franchisee Govia
Thameslink Railway in November 2014, financed by Porterbrook Leasing.

They are based on the Class 387/1 EMUs ordered for interim use on
Thameslink branded services, but customised to provide additional luggage
space and ‘easier boarding’ for airport passengers. They will have 2+2
seating, at-seat power points, wi-fi, Liebherr-Transportation Systems
air-conditioning and automated passenger information.


http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/t...u-on-test.html

______

I assume this was the very last Electrostar order?

Meanwhile, is the future if the current 442 fleet any clearer?

Roland Perry July 24th 15 09:13 AM

New GatEx unit on test at Derby
 
In message
-septemb
er.org, at 08:02:37 on Fri, 24 Jul 2015, Recliner
remarked:
That was quick! The first 387/2 unit destined for Gatwick Express is now
on static test at Derby:

Quote:
Static testing of the first of the Class 387/2 Electrostar electric
multiple-unit cars ordered for Gatwick Express services has begun at
Bombardier Transportation’s Derby plant.

The 27 four-car Class 387/2 EMUs are scheduled to enter service between
London Victoria station and Gatwick airport in 2016,


Starting in June 2015, and completed by the end of the year, according
to the franchisee. Oh dear.

Is *everything* to do with the railways a year late nowadays?

replacing 1980s-built
Class 442 EMUs which have been used on the route since 2008.


--
Roland Perry

Recliner[_3_] July 24th 15 09:32 AM

New GatEx unit on test at Derby
 
Roland Perry wrote:
In message -septemb
er.org, at 08:02:37 on Fri, 24 Jul 2015, Recliner remarked:
That was quick! The first 387/2 unit destined for Gatwick Express is now
on static test at Derby:

Quote:
Static testing of the first of the Class 387/2 Electrostar electric
multiple-unit cars ordered for Gatwick Express services has begun at
Bombardier Transportation’s Derby plant.

The 27 four-car Class 387/2 EMUs are scheduled to enter service between
London Victoria station and Gatwick airport in 2016,


Starting in June 2015, and completed by the end of the year, according to
the franchisee. Oh dear.

Is *everything* to do with the railways a year late nowadays?


It's not late at all, is it? The order was only signed last November.

Presumably there will be more testing on the Brighton line before they go
into passenger service; and there will need to be quite a few produced
before they are deployed on the GatEx service. I assume they'll be running
as eight and 12 car trains?

Roland Perry July 24th 15 09:48 AM

New GatEx unit on test at Derby
 
In message
-septem
ber.org, at 09:32:27 on Fri, 24 Jul 2015, Recliner
remarked:
The 27 four-car Class 387/2 EMUs are scheduled to enter service between
London Victoria station and Gatwick airport in 2016,


Starting in June 2015, and completed by the end of the year, according to
the franchisee. Oh dear.

Is *everything* to do with the railways a year late nowadays?


It's not late at all, is it? The order was only signed last November.


They must have signed the order late, because back in September 2014
when the combined TSGN franchise started they issued a flyer saying that
the new Gatwick Express fleet would start entering service in June 2015.

The next deadline they are likely to miss (MizterT vapourware alert!!)
are "Franchise wide smart ticketing" and "Oyster extensions" arriving in
September 2015.
--
Roland Perry

[email protected] July 24th 15 10:29 AM

New GatEx unit on test at Derby
 
On 24.07.15 9:02, Recliner wrote:
That was quick! The first 387/2 unit destined for Gatwick Express is now
on static test at Derby:

Quote:
Static testing of the first of the Class 387/2 Electrostar electric
multiple-unit cars ordered for Gatwick Express services has begun at
Bombardier Transportation’s Derby plant.

The 27 four-car Class 387/2 EMUs are scheduled to enter service between
London Victoria station and Gatwick airport in 2016, replacing 1980s-built
Class 442 EMUs which have been used on the route since 2008.

The £145·2m order for the Class 387/2 EMUs was signed by franchisee Govia
Thameslink Railway in November 2014, financed by Porterbrook Leasing.

They are based on the Class 387/1 EMUs ordered for interim use on
Thameslink branded services, but customised to provide additional luggage
space and ‘easier boarding’ for airport passengers. They will have 2+2
seating, at-seat power points, wi-fi, Liebherr-Transportation Systems
air-conditioning and automated passenger information.


http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/t...u-on-test.html

______

I assume this was the very last Electrostar order?

Meanwhile, is the future if the current 442 fleet any clearer?

So, then what are they going to do with the 442s?

Roland Perry July 24th 15 11:24 AM

New GatEx unit on test at Derby
 
In message , at 11:57:24 on
Fri, 24 Jul 2015, Paul Corfield remarked:

The 27 four-car Class 387/2 EMUs are scheduled to enter service between
London Victoria station and Gatwick airport in 2016,

Starting in June 2015, and completed by the end of the year, according to
the franchisee. Oh dear.

Is *everything* to do with the railways a year late nowadays?

It's not late at all, is it? The order was only signed last November.


They must have signed the order late, because back in September 2014
when the combined TSGN franchise started they issued a flyer saying that
the new Gatwick Express fleet would start entering service in June 2015.

The next deadline they are likely to miss (MizterT vapourware alert!!)
are "Franchise wide smart ticketing" and "Oyster extensions" arriving in
September 2015.


Yawn!

The key readers and validators are being installed all over the Great
Northern route - I've seen the photos of the installed kit on uk rail
forums. I expect TSGN are deliberately not installing anything at Ely
just to annoy you!!!


You'd have thought they would have learned by now!

It also seems Oyster is going to reach High Speed between St P and
Stratford International from 31 July 2015.


That's good news.

https://www.southeasternrailway.co.u...e/news/oyster-
extended-to-stratford-on-our-high-speed-services

Also to Hertford East in the near future.

http://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.u...Hertford-East-
Ware-St/story-27471416-detail/story.html


What about the other places?
--
Roland Perry

[email protected] July 25th 15 12:11 AM

New GatEx unit on test at Derby
 
In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message

-september.
org, at 09:32:27 on Fri, 24 Jul 2015, Recliner
remarked:
The 27 four-car Class 387/2 EMUs are scheduled to enter service
between London Victoria station and Gatwick airport in 2016,

Starting in June 2015, and completed by the end of the year, according
to the franchisee. Oh dear.

Is *everything* to do with the railways a year late nowadays?


It's not late at all, is it? The order was only signed last November.


They must have signed the order late, because back in September 2014
when the combined TSGN franchise started they issued a flyer saying
that the new Gatwick Express fleet would start entering service in
June 2015.

The next deadline they are likely to miss (MizterT vapourware
alert!!) are "Franchise wide smart ticketing" and "Oyster extensions"
arriving in September 2015.


They're still claiming The Key on the rest of GTR in the email I had today
about the absorption of the Southern franchise.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

[email protected] July 25th 15 12:26 AM

New GatEx unit on test at Derby
 
In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message

-september.
org, at 09:32:27 on Fri, 24 Jul 2015, Recliner
remarked:
The 27 four-car Class 387/2 EMUs are scheduled to enter service
between London Victoria station and Gatwick airport in 2016,

Starting in June 2015, and completed by the end of the year, according
to the franchisee. Oh dear.

Is *everything* to do with the railways a year late nowadays?


It's not late at all, is it? The order was only signed last November.


They must have signed the order late, because back in September 2014
when the combined TSGN franchise started they issued a flyer saying
that the new Gatwick Express fleet would start entering service in
June 2015.

The next deadline they are likely to miss (MizterT vapourware
alert!!) are "Franchise wide smart ticketing" and "Oyster extensions"
arriving in September 2015.


The latest "Connections" says this:

"Dec 2015 Target date for 108 new carriages on the Gatwick Express"

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Roland Perry July 25th 15 08:44 AM

New GatEx unit on test at Derby
 
In message , at 19:11:27
on Fri, 24 Jul 2015, remarked:
The next deadline they are likely to miss (MizterT vapourware
alert!!) are "Franchise wide smart ticketing" and "Oyster extensions"
arriving in September 2015.


They're still claiming The Key on the rest of GTR in the email I had today
about the absorption of the Southern franchise.


Any date given? Wasn't there also a plan to install it only as far north
as Cambridge.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry July 25th 15 09:47 AM

New GatEx unit on test at Derby
 
In message , at 09:44:24 on Sat, 25 Jul
2015, Roland Perry remarked:
The next deadline they are likely to miss (MizterT vapourware
alert!!) are "Franchise wide smart ticketing" and "Oyster extensions"
arriving in September 2015.


They're still claiming The Key on the rest of GTR in the email I had today
about the absorption of the Southern franchise.


Any date given? Wasn't there also a plan to install it only as far
north as Cambridge.


Having now seen the "Connections" leaflet, it's "from this Autumn" and
only as far north as Royston.
--
Roland Perry


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