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On 13/09/2015 07:59, Roland Perry wrote:

Being a
Londoner all his life (even when at University) I'm sure he's very well
aware of the transport options in London.


stereotype
Or just knows about the Underground line from where he has lived to
where he has worked, and is amazed that all the people who only arrived
after university have actually been to insert name of a place on a
different Underground line, have used National Rail services, still
think deep down that "night bus" is an oxymoron, and claim to have once
seen a tram.
/stereotype

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Arthur Figgis wrote:
On 13/09/2015 07:59, Roland Perry wrote:

Being a
Londoner all his life (even when at University) I'm sure he's very well
aware of the transport options in London.


stereotype
Or just knows about the Underground line from where he has lived to where
he has worked, and is amazed that all the people who only arrived after
university have actually been to insert name of a place on a different
Underground line, have used National Rail services, still think deep
down that "night bus" is an oxymoron, and claim to have once seen a tram.
/stereotype



He used to be a civil liberties solicitor, and so probably knows the
Tube/bus routes to all the prisons in London.
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In message , at
19:23:42 on Sun, 13 Sep 2015, Arthur Figgis
remarked:
Being a
Londoner all his life (even when at University) I'm sure he's very well
aware of the transport options in London.


stereotype
Or just knows about the Underground line from where he has lived to
where he has worked, and is amazed that all the people who only arrived
after university have actually been to insert name of a place on a
different Underground line, have used National Rail services, still
think deep down that "night bus" is an oxymoron, and claim to have once
seen a tram.
/stereotype


I'd like to see some evidence of that, but although I disagree with much
of his politics the tweets I saw from him while a transport minister
paint a very different picture.
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In message , at 21:25:59 on
Sun, 13 Sep 2015, Paul Corfield remarked:

He used to be a civil liberties solicitor, and so probably knows the
Tube/bus routes to all the prisons in London.


More likely he knows how to drive to them or hails a cab. How many
lawyers, who are any good, use public transport to visit clients? Time
is money and all that stuff.


He was born and brought up in London (in a working class family), and
went to University in London. You think he drove or used cabs for any of
that time?
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So what? Working class families don't have cars or their kids don't
learn to drive? Get real.

My reference to the potential use of cabs was in the context of him
being a lawyer and travelling to visit clients in prisons. On the
basis that lawyers are traditionally very busy people they are
unlikely to schlep round London on the bus. They are far more likely
to opt for cabs.

Paul C
. . . the first time I've ever seen Paul Corfield admit that for many people
travelling by car is more sensible than travelling by bus! (I, of course, am
a motorist!)


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In message , at 00:57:47 on
Mon, 14 Sep 2015, Paul Corfield remarked:

He was born and brought up in London (in a working class family), and
went to University in London. You think he drove or used cabs for any of
that time?


So what? Working class families don't have cars or their kids don't
learn to drive? Get real.


It's much less likely if they are living in a block of council flats in
Tooting. And driving from there to Camden to go to university would be
bizarre.
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On 2015-09-13 20:25:59 +0000, Paul Corfield said:

More likely he knows how to drive to them or hails a cab. How many
lawyers, who are any good, use public transport to visit clients? Time
is money and all that stuff.


In my experience the Tube is often a much faster way to travel around
London than a cab, though it can depend on where bus lanes are
provided. For some journeys, my recent observation is that the bicycle
can be by far the quickest.

Neil
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On 2015-09-14 07:55:54 +0000, Robin9 said:

. . the first time I've ever seen Paul Corfield admit that for many
people
travelling by car is more sensible than travelling by bus! (I, of
course, am
a motorist!)


I'm a pedestrian, a cyclist, a motorist, an air passenger, a ship
passenger, a rail passenger, a bus passenger and probably others I
haven't thought of. I choose the appropriate mode of transport for the
journey being made, IOW, though I'll admit motorcycling doesn't feature
I wouldn't rule it out for the future.

Why do we have to typecast ourselves?

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In message , at 09:45:04 on Mon, 14
Sep 2015, Neil Williams remarked:

I'm a pedestrian, a cyclist, a motorist, an air passenger, a ship
passenger, a rail passenger, a bus passenger and probably others I
haven't thought of. I choose the appropriate mode of transport for the
journey being made, IOW, though I'll admit motorcycling doesn't feature
I wouldn't rule it out for the future.

Why do we have to typecast ourselves?


Many of us don't (I'm multimodal like yourself - and add trams if you
like, and obviously minicabs and taxis).

But there quite a few militant cyclists and militant non-car-users, and
people who claim they wouldn't be seen dead on a bike/in a bus. And then
the people who famously would only use a taxi when travelling around
Z1/Z2. So there are many flavours of people around.

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In message , at 09:28:22 on Mon, 14
Sep 2015, Neil Williams remarked:
More likely he knows how to drive to them or hails a cab. How many
lawyers, who are any good, use public transport to visit clients? Time
is money and all that stuff.


In my experience the Tube is often a much faster way to travel around
London than a cab, though it can depend on where bus lanes are
provided. For some journeys, my recent observation is that the bicycle
can be by far the quickest.


Cabs are useful if you don't exactly know where your destination is,
especially late at night.
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