On 2015\10\29 14:23, e27002 aurora wrote:

The situation at Camden Town is pitiful. There is one floor, of what
one assumes is, commercial space above the station.

IMHO this should be replaced. Camden Town Station is soon to gain a
second entrance. It will be on Buck Street. This would be a good
time to develop more space above the existing station entrance.

Leslie Green designed his stations as steel frames capable of
supporting further storeys. The glazed terracotta is merely cladding.
If Mr Green's structure will not support a significant number of
floors, then a new support system will be needed. With modern
materials and techniques it should be possible to add a supporting
structure, and a suspended slab above the station.

Then several floors of office space and residences should be possible.
Each business is a ratepayer, each home is council tax.

Do you think homes are appropriate at a three-line interchange like
Camden Town / Road? I think only employers (including shops) should be
built in that neighbourhood. Save the residences for one-line stations
like Mornington Crescent.

On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 17:25:49 +0000, Basil Jet
wrote:

On 2015\10\29 14:23, e27002 aurora wrote:

The situation at Camden Town is pitiful. There is one floor, of what
one assumes is, commercial space above the station.

IMHO this should be replaced. Camden Town Station is soon to gain a
second entrance. It will be on Buck Street. This would be a good
time to develop more space above the existing station entrance.

Leslie Green designed his stations as steel frames capable of
supporting further storeys. The glazed terracotta is merely cladding.
If Mr Green's structure will not support a significant number of
floors, then a new support system will be needed. With modern
materials and techniques it should be possible to add a supporting
structure, and a suspended slab above the station.

Then several floors of office space and residences should be possible.

cough! Foundations./cough!

Each business is a ratepayer,

Not when it lies empty for years.

each home is council tax.

Not all.

Do you think homes are appropriate at a three-line interchange like
Camden Town / Road? I think only employers (including shops) should be
built in that neighbourhood. Save the residences for one-line stations
like Mornington Crescent.

In message , at 17:42:34 on
Thu, 29 Oct 2015, Charles Ellson remarked:

each home is council tax.

Not all.

There I have to agree with you, given the number of students living in
the area.
--
Roland Perry

On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 17:25:49 +0000, Basil Jet
wrote:

On 2015\10\29 14:23, e27002 aurora wrote:

The situation at Camden Town is pitiful. There is one floor, of what
one assumes is, commercial space above the station.

IMHO this should be replaced. Camden Town Station is soon to gain a
second entrance. It will be on Buck Street. This would be a good
time to develop more space above the existing station entrance.

Leslie Green designed his stations as steel frames capable of
supporting further storeys. The glazed terracotta is merely cladding.
If Mr Green's structure will not support a significant number of
floors, then a new support system will be needed. With modern
materials and techniques it should be possible to add a supporting
structure, and a suspended slab above the station.

Then several floors of office space and residences should be possible.
Each business is a ratepayer, each home is council tax.

Do you think homes are appropriate at a three-line interchange like
Camden Town / Road?

Yes, 1. Camden is already a locality in its own right. The existing
residents should feel that it is theirs. The character should be
preserved.

2. TOD is about densification, and thus maximising land use. It
should be a mixed development. Otherwise after business hours the
area declines into an under-utilized ghost town.

3. London, and the UK generally, have an acute housing shortage. This
pushing up prices. Increase the supply, demand levels off, and the
rate of price increase slows. London needs affordable quality homes
to buy. There is also a need for a private rental market where
building are owned and managed for tenants. This sort of thing is
common in other cities, New York, Los Angeles, etc.

Camden Town will become the interchange station between two lines when
the Northern Line is split. It is not realistic to call it an
interchange with the North London Line.

If a North London Line interchange is desirable, and IMHO it is, then:
Extend the East London DC pair beyond Highbury @ Islington, over new
infrastructure as needed, to the old Primrose Hill Station.

It would be relatively easy to extend the intermediate pedestrian
tunnel at Chalk farm to new stairs and elevators. These would rise to
a reinstated DC Line platform. The entire complex would become "Chalk
Farm Station".

On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 08:15:53 +0000, e27002 aurora
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 17:25:49 +0000, Basil Jet
wrote:

On 2015\10\29 14:23, e27002 aurora wrote:

The situation at Camden Town is pitiful. There is one floor, of what
one assumes is, commercial space above the station.

IMHO this should be replaced. Camden Town Station is soon to gain a
second entrance. It will be on Buck Street. This would be a good
time to develop more space above the existing station entrance.

Leslie Green designed his stations as steel frames capable of
supporting further storeys. The glazed terracotta is merely cladding.
If Mr Green's structure will not support a significant number of
floors, then a new support system will be needed. With modern
materials and techniques it should be possible to add a supporting
structure, and a suspended slab above the station.

Then several floors of office space and residences should be possible.
Each business is a ratepayer, each home is council tax.

Do you think homes are appropriate at a three-line interchange like
Camden Town / Road?

Yes, 1. Camden is already a locality in its own right. The existing
residents should feel that it is theirs. The character should be
preserved.

2. TOD is about densification, and thus maximising land use. It
should be a mixed development. Otherwise after business hours the
area declines into an under-utilized ghost town.

3. London, and the UK generally, have an acute housing shortage. This
pushing up prices. Increase the supply, demand levels off, and the
rate of price increase slows. London needs affordable quality homes
to buy. There is also a need for a private rental market where
building are owned and managed for tenants. This sort of thing is
common in other cities, New York, Los Angeles, etc.

Camden Town will become the interchange station between two lines when
the Northern Line is split. It is not realistic to call it an
interchange with the North London Line.

If a North London Line interchange is desirable, and IMHO it is, then:
Extend the East London DC pair beyond Highbury @ Islington, over new
infrastructure as needed, to the old Primrose Hill Station.

It would be relatively easy to extend the intermediate pedestrian
tunnel at Chalk farm to new stairs and elevators. These would rise to
a reinstated DC Line platform. The entire complex would become "Chalk
Farm Station".

No practical need. The passengers (mostly) have legs and there are two
walking routes over local highways. A connecting tunnel would require
sufficient clearance from buildings above or if under the road from
any buried services (and would in the end be longer than walking on
the surface). To come up in Primrose Hill from underneath the
difference in levels would possibly also require provision of
escalators and a lift at one end if not both. Chalk Farm platforms are
54 steps down which isn't all that deep (27ft if steps have 6" rise)