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On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 01:40:46 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
wrote: Charles Ellson wrote: On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 00:02:08 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote: Charles Ellson wrote: On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 12:03:37 +0000, Basil Jet wrote: On 2015\10\31 12:01, Basil Jet wrote: On 2015\10\31 09:34, e27002 aurora wrote: Dalston, Angel and St Pancras look reasonable. BUT, then the line heads for Victoria. Victoria already has a direct route toKX/St P. But Waterloo does not. Why not follow the route of the WWI plan for an express Northern Line pair to Waterloo? Boris's new toy then follows a zigzag route to Wimbledon. Wimbledon is already well served and cramped. Adding the entrances here for a Crossrail station will be difficult. Moreover it adds little value. Anyone heading from Wimbledon to Victoria has a choice of routes. One can change at Clapham Junction, or use the District Line. Why not continue to shadow the Northern Line with Stations at Kennington, Clapham North, Balham, Tooting Broadway, and South Wimbledon? Borisrail then continues to Raynes Park. There is a logic to this because several of the main SW suburban routes have converged there. But Boris's route then runs onto them ALL. That begs the question: Why retain the slow pair from Waterloo. How does TfL, et al, expect to maintain the discipline of a rapid transit service with four branches? No, from Colliers Wood Crossrail two should continue to Raynes Park for interchange and then take over the pair towards Motspur Park. The route could terminate at Chessington and Horsham. The later will provide many valuable connections to, and from, the outer suburbs. That sounds dear. I don't know why everybody wants to build underground stations everywhere. They're dear! By 2030 the Waterloo trains will probably all be electric or bi-mode. I suggest a new twin-tunnel mainline from Hersham to Clapham Junction with a pair of tunnelled platforms at Kingston, to replace Surbiton as the principal station in the area. That would free up lots of room on the surface lines through Wimbledon and Surbiton for more local trains which could then go into the CR2 tunnel near Clapham Junction in approximately the same place as the mainline tunnel ended. I forgot to say that the mainline would be under parkland for much of the route and under the A3 for another chunk, all of which cheapens and simplifies construction. If the oil runs out you could put the railway on one side of the A3 as the other side might be all that's needed for what's left of public and goods road transport. The oil isn't running out any time soon, Strange, three parties spent two years telling people in Scotland that it was. Charles, stop being so obtuse. You know very well that what they correctly said was that *Scotland's* oil was running out. Not all of the oil in the North Sea is in Scottish waters and there are more undeveloped fields in the west. It was the SNP that lied, on this and many other topics. Oh ? LIB - Carmichael - In danger of losing seat because of lies. [http://www.shetlandtimes.co.uk/2015/...ael-case-ends] LIB/LAB/CON - Promised new Scotland Bill ready to be voted on by 25th January. Bill is still making way through Westminster. LAB - Claims that "Scottish Labour" is a political party when it is merely a registered alias of GB Labour. LAB/LIB/CON - Claimed thousands depend on Trident for jobs at Faslane - MOD later confirms they only employ 159 and contractors employ about 360. Figures had been puffed up by counting 3500 sailors and 3000 other staff mostly not employed on Trident, many of whom are not always there. If fracking ever gets going in England, it may be producing more oil than Scotland. Or it might not. And it's because the world's oil is now so much cheaper that the remaining Scottish fields aren't economically viable; it's certainly not worth looking for more very-expensive-to-extract oil in the North Sea. You haven't told the oil companies then. They're ahead of the game waiting for the US to blow the lot. |
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