London Transport (uk.transport.london) Discussion of all forms of transport in London.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Report Post  
Old November 14th 15, 12:39 AM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity at LondonBanter: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,385
Default Inclined lift at Greenford Station replaces the last wooden escalator


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxScXvX1Dv4

  #2   Report Post  
Old November 14th 15, 12:56 AM posted to uk.railway,uk.transport.london
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity at LondonBanter: Oct 2014
Posts: 2,990
Default Inclined lift at Greenford Station replaces the lastwooden escalator

Basil Jet wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxScXvX1Dv4


Thanks, I had already planned to go and have a look at it next week. It's
been ages in construction.

Only a very few years ago, Greenford was a station with semaphore signals
and a wooden panelled escalator. Now they've both gone, but it's still one
of the very few stations with cross-platform interchange between DMUs and
automatic Tube trains.

  #3   Report Post  
Old November 14th 15, 08:03 AM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity at LondonBanter: Apr 2004
Posts: 26
Default Inclined lift at Greenford Station replaces the last wooden escalator

Basil Jet wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxScXvX1Dv4


I'm a little surprised that they claim it uses less power than a
conventional lift. If you have to raise a given mass through a
given vertical distance, shouldn't the answer be the same?

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Plant amazing Acers.
  #4   Report Post  
Old November 14th 15, 08:09 AM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity at LondonBanter: Oct 2014
Posts: 2,990
Default Inclined lift at Greenford Station replaces the lastwooden escalator

Chris J Dixon wrote:
Basil Jet wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxScXvX1Dv4


I'm a little surprised that they claim it uses less power than a
conventional lift. If you have to raise a given mass through a
given vertical distance, shouldn't the answer be the same?


Yes, I agree about the *energy* consumption. But perhaps it gets away with
a less powerful motor, as it's slower than a normal lift. I assume it has
a counterbalance like a normal lift? I'll see if I can tell when I go to
see it on Monday. Of course, the balance weight may be hidden, as it is
with many normal lifts.

  #5   Report Post  
Old November 14th 15, 08:16 AM posted to uk.transport.london,misc.transport.urban-transit,uk.railway
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity at LondonBanter: Nov 2014
Posts: 284
Default Inclined lift at Greenford Station replaces the last wooden escalator

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 09:03:03 +0000, Chris J Dixon
wrote:

Basil Jet wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxScXvX1Dv4


I'm a little surprised that they claim it uses less power than a
conventional lift. If you have to raise a given mass through a
given vertical distance, shouldn't the answer be the same?


It is a funicular railway, no?


  #6   Report Post  
Old November 14th 15, 08:20 AM posted to uk.transport.london
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity at LondonBanter: May 2007
Posts: 1,139
Default Inclined lift at Greenford Station replaces the last wooden escalator

On Saturday, 14 November 2015 01:39:32 UTC, Basil Jet wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxScXvX1Dv4


Why is it not called a funicular?
  #7   Report Post  
Old November 14th 15, 08:36 AM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity at LondonBanter: Mar 2009
Posts: 240
Default Inclined lift at Greenford Station replaces the last wooden escalator

In message
-sept
ember.org, Recliner wrote:
I'm a little surprised that they claim it uses less power than a
conventional lift. If you have to raise a given mass through a
given vertical distance, shouldn't the answer be the same?


That assumes 100% efficiency in the mechanism. Not a safe assumption.

Yes, I agree about the *energy* consumption. But perhaps it gets away with
a less powerful motor, as it's slower than a normal lift.


In addition, the fact it's sliding down rails rather than hanging in
free space may alter the efficiency of the mechanism.

--
Clive D.W. Feather | Home:
Mobile: +44 7973 377646 | Web: http://www.davros.org
Please reply to the Reply-To address, which is:
  #8   Report Post  
Old November 14th 15, 08:40 AM posted to uk.transport.london
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity at LondonBanter: Oct 2014
Posts: 2,990
Default Inclined lift at Greenford Station replaces the lastwooden escalator

Offramp wrote:
On Saturday, 14 November 2015 01:39:32 UTC, Basil Jet wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxScXvX1Dv4


Why is it not called a funicular?


Good question. Maybe because it's indoors? I assume it also doesn't run on
railway-style tracks.

  #9   Report Post  
Old November 14th 15, 09:13 AM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity at LondonBanter: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,715
Default Inclined lift at Greenford Station replaces the last woodenescalator

On 14/11/2015 09:03, Chris J Dixon wrote:
Basil Jet wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxScXvX1Dv4


I'm a little surprised that they claim it uses less power than a
conventional lift. If you have to raise a given mass through a
given vertical distance, shouldn't the answer be the same?


More efficient and I suspect the actual lift body weighs less than a
wooden escalator.


--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.

  #10   Report Post  
Old November 14th 15, 09:18 AM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity at LondonBanter: Oct 2014
Posts: 2,990
Default Inclined lift at Greenford Station replaces the lastwooden escalator

Clive D. W. Feather wrote:
In message
-sept
ember.org, Recliner wrote:
I'm a little surprised that they claim it uses less power than a
conventional lift. If you have to raise a given mass through a
given vertical distance, shouldn't the answer be the same?


That assumes 100% efficiency in the mechanism. Not a safe assumption.

Yes, I agree about the *energy* consumption. But perhaps it gets away with
a less powerful motor, as it's slower than a normal lift.


In addition, the fact it's sliding down rails rather than hanging in
free space may alter the efficiency of the mechanism.


I assume it runs on rollers or guide wheels, rather than sliding. It's at
quite a shallow angle.
See http://democracy.walthamforest.gov.u...pendix%20B.pdf



Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Wooden Bus Shelters [email protected] London Transport 2 April 8th 17 01:27 PM
Wooden Bus Shelters Offramp London Transport 7 April 8th 17 12:45 PM
Wooden Bus Shelters [email protected] London Transport 1 April 6th 17 10:17 PM
On the subject of inclined platforms... Charlie Pearce London Transport 4 November 2nd 04 10:09 PM
Dot Matrix replaces big boards at L/Pool St David Jackman London Transport 22 July 19th 03 09:11 PM


All times are GMT. The time now is 06:27 PM.

Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 London Banter.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about London Transport"

 

Copyright © 2017