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On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 22:39:42 +0000, Beer O'Clock
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On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 17:03:16 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
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Graeme Wall wrote:
On 22/11/2015 16:35, Recliner wrote:
Graeme Wall wrote:
On 22/11/2015 16:07, Recliner wrote:
furnessvale wrote:
On Sunday, 22 November 2015 09:48:01 UTC, e27002 wrote:
So, SNIP

Sorry to nitpick but one of my pet hates is people who begin a sentence (in
speech) with "So".

Is it now entering the written language and has it got any grammatical or
linguistic justification?

Sorry again, I'll go back under my bridge!

So do you think our mid-Atlantic friend will be upset that all the
responses so far have been criticisms of his spelling and grammar, rather
than praise for his in-depth hotel review?


Adrian did rather ask for it by being pre-emptively rude about language
preferences at the end of his piece :-)

Having said that it was an interesting description. He did make a good
point about having adequate power sockets in usable positions,
especially when it comes to people who need some sort of medical
technology, something the average trip advisor review tends to overlook.

Yes, that was a good point. One thing he didn't mention was whether it has
multi-standard electric sockets, useful for a hotel right next to an
international station. Some modern international hotels have sockets that
will take UK, US and Continental plugs.


IIRC he specifically mentioned 13 amp.


He did, but I wondered if they might have been multi-standard, though I
suppose he might have mentioned that he could plug his US stuff in if they
were.


Would UK building regs allow that?


The GNH has the usual 110v outlet in the bathroom. Other than that
the usual, excellent UK electrical outlets.

These days laptops, etc. are not an issue. Their power units accept a
wide range of voltages.


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On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:54:38 +0000, Roland Perry
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Thu, 26 Nov 2015, e27002 aurora remarked:

there are many hotel showers which don't deliver their hot water at
high pressure, but that doesn't bother me.


Cleanliness is next to G_dliness. I like a real, hi-volume,
hi-pressure, hot water shower. :-)


Hi-pressure showers don't make you any cleaner, they just waste water.


Our opinions differ Roland. I am leaving it at that.
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On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:59:52 +0000, Roland Perry
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01:42:31 on Thu, 26 Nov 2015, remarked:

While on the one hand this does benefit from efficiencies of scale (I'm
sure the municipal hot water plant is very good at its job,) I do wonder
about the 'transmission losses' involved. Although in a sense they do
provide a public good, in that I'm told knowing where the pipes run and
where to sleep near them is invaluable for the homeless in winter.


In some schemes of this kind (no idea about this specific case), the heat source for making the water hot is a by-product of some sort of
industrial process that would otherwise use it to make the atmosphere a little warmer or slightly increase the temperature of a local river.


There are district heating projects in the UK, eg:

http://www.vitalenergi.co.uk/casestu...ttingham-city/

You can see some of the pipes at the eastern end of the railway station,
and others were re-routed a little south of the station as part of the
tramway extension works.


IIRC this system utilizes the Great Central tunnels under Nottingham.
Great as the heating system is, I would much rather have the trains,
:-)
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In message , at 13:30:23 on
Thu, 26 Nov 2015, e27002 aurora remarked:

There are district heating projects in the UK, eg:

http://www.vitalenergi.co.uk/casestu...ttingham-city/

You can see some of the pipes at the eastern end of the railway station,
and others were re-routed a little south of the station as part of the
tramway extension works.


IIRC this system utilizes the Great Central tunnels under Nottingham.
Great as the heating system is, I would much rather have the trains,


That's one of many limbs to the system. The problem with reinstating the
trains is orders of magnitude more complex than moving a few hot water
pipes. Most recently the tram extension, and before that this absurdly
ugly museum in the tunnel mouth:

http://www.nottinghamvision.co.uk/im...et/lace-4L.jpg

And of course the Victoria Centre and housing above, which is probably
one of the recipients of the hot water.
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On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 13:30:23 +0000
e27002 aurora wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:59:52 +0000, Roland Perry
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You can see some of the pipes at the eastern end of the railway station,
and others were re-routed a little south of the station as part of the
tramway extension works.


IIRC this system utilizes the Great Central tunnels under Nottingham.
Great as the heating system is, I would much rather have the trains,
:-)


Its a mystery to me why they didn't route a branch of the tram line through it.
They head straight for it then veer off at the last moment. The tunnels northern
portal is at the victoria centre where they could have had a stop and then
headed off up the A60.

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e27002 aurora wrote:
On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 08:12:34 +0000, Roland Perry
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In message , at 18:03:11 on
Sun, 22 Nov 2015, e27002 aurora remarked:
There can't be many people who feel inclined to comment on the
excellence or otherwise of a hotel room's plumbing

Or its supply of hot water. I've only stayed at two hotels (out of
several hundreds) which ran out of hot water.

The first was in Maidenhead in around 1980 and had suffered a one-off
major outage of some kind. The other was Sharm-el-Sheikh in 2009 where
no-one appeared to be that surprised that the system had broken down yet
again.

Given how well travelled you are, Roland, one is surprised you have
not noticed the quality of the mains pressure water systems found in
those United States. One of the things that attracted me to my unit
here on the south coast was the absence of the usual low pressure UK
plumbing. My shower here works as well as my shower in Tucson. That
is hardly the norm for the UK.


Yes, there are many hotel showers which don't deliver their hot water at
high pressure, but that doesn't bother me.


Cleanliness is next to G_dliness. I like a real, hi-volume,
hi-pressure, hot water shower. :-)


Is godliness now a swear word? I'd missed that.

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In article
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tember.org,
Recliner wrote:

e27002 aurora wrote:

Cleanliness is next to G_dliness. I like a real, hi-volume,
hi-pressure, hot water shower. :-)


Is godliness now a swear word? I'd missed that.


Adrian is a Messianic Jew or something close to it. Observant Jews
don't like to use the name of the Deity in either speech or writing.
Leaving out the "o" seems to be sufficient to meet that requirement.

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Sam Wilson wrote:
In article
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tember.org,
Recliner wrote:

e27002 aurora wrote:

Cleanliness is next to G_dliness. I like a real, hi-volume,
hi-pressure, hot water shower. :-)


Is godliness now a swear word? I'd missed that.


Adrian is a Messianic Jew or something close to it. Observant Jews
don't like to use the name of the Deity in either speech or writing.
Leaving out the "o" seems to be sufficient to meet that requirement.


Yes, I was aware of his unusual religious leanings. But if one is of that
persuasion, surely one should simply avoid using any prohibited words,
rather than using them with a letter omitted (which actually draws
attention to the word he's not supposed to use).



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