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[email protected] January 1st 16 09:26 AM

By London's Northern Line to Battersea
 
In article ,
(e27002 aurora) wrote:

On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 14:33:48 +0000,
wrote:

* not necessarily the national government, could be whatever was
governing London.
in that case could the Met have shrunk back further than Amersham.

That may yet happen. It is not hard to see a future were the Met Line
runs to Watford and Chiltern take over the service to Amersham and
Chesham.


Which will soon be to Milton Keynes of course.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Recliner[_3_] January 1st 16 09:27 AM

By London's Northern Line to Battersea
 
wrote:
In article ,
(e27002 aurora) wrote:

On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 14:33:48 +0000,
wrote:

* not necessarily the national government, could be whatever was
governing London.
in that case could the Met have shrunk back further than Amersham.

That may yet happen. It is not hard to see a future were the Met Line
runs to Watford and Chiltern take over the service to Amersham and
Chesham.


Which will soon be to Milton Keynes of course.


Probably not 'soon' by any normal definition. Also, I'm not sure if the
infrequent trains that go to Bletchley will be the ones that go via the
Amersham route.


Roland Perry January 1st 16 09:31 AM

By London's Northern Line to Battersea
 
In message
-septe
mber.org, at 10:12:52 on Fri, 1 Jan 2016, Recliner
remarked:

And apart from the Victoria line, which is really named after Victoria
station, rather than the queen herself, that's long been the tradition. Far
better to have anodyne, vaguely geographic names.


Where's the vague geographic location of 'the Jubilee'?
--
Roland Perry

e27002 aurora January 1st 16 09:33 AM

By London's Northern Line to Battersea
 
On Fri, 1 Jan 2016 09:59:36 +0000, Basil Jet
wrote:

On 2016\01\01 09:50, e27002 aurora wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 20:23:11 +0000, BevanPrice
wrote:

On 29/12/2015 11:15, e27002 aurora wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 21:05:52 GMT, d wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2015 14:25:15 +0000
Basil Jet wrote:
I notice that "Nine Elms" roundels have gone up all over the hoarding
surrounding the former Sainsburys opposite Wilcox Road.

Boris has also ceremonially started a conveyor belt from the Battersea
station site to the Thames.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcjSnzw38iI

Maybe they should have just built a two way conveyor from Battersea to
Vauxhall and then we wouldn't need the railway ;-)

I wonder if when that extension is built and the line is operationally split
in 2 whether one half of the line will be given a new name or whether it'll
still all be known as the northern line?

Logically two independent lines should have two names. Independent
from a customer facing standpoint that is. It would be no surprise if
they still exchanged empty stock movements.

If the bits that were the "Charing Cross, Euston and Hampstead
Railway" remain together, the "Hampstead Line" has a good ring to it.

Or, how about something royal? "The Queen Elizabeth Line", "The
Charles, Prince of Wales Line", or "The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Line". I suspect in every day speech these would become the QE2,
Charlie, or Duchess Lines respectively. :-)

TfL could celebrate a great politician: "The Cromwell Line", "The
Winston Spencer Churchill Line", or, especially the part that includes
the Barnett Branch "The Baroness Thatcher Line".


That last one would probably make half the passengers want to puke.......

You are believing your own leftist propaganda. Allow me to paint a
more realistic pictu
More than half of the potential users of the route just would not
care. Sad, but welcome to the modern apathetic world.

A healthy number would be happy to see the Iron Lady so honored.

A boisterous left wing minority would make a lot of obscene fuss. They
would use the methods at their disposal, vandalism, graffiti et al.
This says more about them than the great lady.


LU would be stupid to use a name which would obviously attract graffiti.


Superficially you have a point Basil. But, why should conservatives
only see the names of leftist "heroes" honoured, and not our own,
merely because we do not resort to illegal and antisocial tactics.

Let's take your point a step further: why fight Islamic State, doing
so may bring about more terrorists attacks in Europe and North
America.

Never let the scum win.

Recliner[_3_] January 1st 16 09:45 AM

By London's Northern Line to Battersea
 
Roland Perry wrote:
In message
-septe
mber.org, at 10:12:52 on Fri, 1 Jan 2016, Recliner
remarked:

And apart from the Victoria line, which is really named after Victoria
station, rather than the queen herself, that's long been the tradition. Far
better to have anodyne, vaguely geographic names.


Where's the vague geographic location of 'the Jubilee'?


Well, it did start out as the Fleet line... Of course, once it got
re-routed, that name was no longer appropriate, but I still think it was a
better name.


[email protected] January 1st 16 10:01 AM

By London's Northern Line to Battersea
 
In article ,
(e27002 aurora) wrote:

On Fri, 1 Jan 2016 09:59:36 +0000, Basil Jet
wrote:

On 2016\01\01 09:50, e27002 aurora wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 20:23:11 +0000, BevanPrice
wrote:

On 29/12/2015 11:15, e27002 aurora wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 21:05:52 GMT,
d
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2015 14:25:15 +0000
Basil Jet wrote:
I notice that "Nine Elms" roundels have gone up all over the
hoarding surrounding the former Sainsburys opposite Wilcox Road.

Boris has also ceremonially started a conveyor belt from the
Battersea station site to the Thames.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcjSnzw38iI

Maybe they should have just built a two way conveyor from Battersea
to Vauxhall and then we wouldn't need the railway ;-)

I wonder if when that extension is built and the line is
operationally split in 2 whether one half of the line will be given
a new name or whether it'll still all be known as the northern line?

Logically two independent lines should have two names. Independent
from a customer facing standpoint that is. It would be no surprise
if they still exchanged empty stock movements.

If the bits that were the "Charing Cross, Euston and Hampstead
Railway" remain together, the "Hampstead Line" has a good ring to it.

Or, how about something royal? "The Queen Elizabeth Line", "The
Charles, Prince of Wales Line", or "The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Line". I suspect in every day speech these would become the QE2,
Charlie, or Duchess Lines respectively. :-)

TfL could celebrate a great politician: "The Cromwell Line", "The
Winston Spencer Churchill Line", or, especially the part that
includes the Barnett Branch "The Baroness Thatcher Line".


That last one would probably make half the passengers want to
puke.......

You are believing your own leftist propaganda. Allow me to paint a
more realistic pictu
More than half of the potential users of the route just would not
care. Sad, but welcome to the modern apathetic world.

A healthy number would be happy to see the Iron Lady so honored.

A boisterous left wing minority would make a lot of obscene fuss. They
would use the methods at their disposal, vandalism, graffiti et al.
This says more about them than the great lady.


LU would be stupid to use a name which would obviously attract graffiti.


Superficially you have a point Basil. But, why should conservatives
only see the names of leftist "heroes" honoured, and not our own,
merely because we do not resort to illegal and antisocial tactics.

Let's take your point a step further: why fight Islamic State, doing
so may bring about more terrorists attacks in Europe and North
America.

Never let the scum win.


We very rarely name public facilities after party politicians. Things (e.g.
the Cambridge college) have been named after Churchill precisely because he
is seen as a national saviour, above party politics. Perception is all of
course. Nobody has suggested naming anything after Wilson either and he's a
less controversial figure than Thatcher.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

e27002 aurora January 1st 16 10:36 AM

By London's Northern Line to Battersea
 
On Fri, 01 Jan 2016 05:01:54 -0600,
wrote:

In article ,

(e27002 aurora) wrote:

On Fri, 1 Jan 2016 09:59:36 +0000, Basil Jet
wrote:

On 2016\01\01 09:50, e27002 aurora wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 20:23:11 +0000, BevanPrice
wrote:

On 29/12/2015 11:15, e27002 aurora wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 21:05:52 GMT,
d
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2015 14:25:15 +0000
Basil Jet wrote:
I notice that "Nine Elms" roundels have gone up all over the
hoarding surrounding the former Sainsburys opposite Wilcox Road.

Boris has also ceremonially started a conveyor belt from the
Battersea station site to the Thames.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcjSnzw38iI

Maybe they should have just built a two way conveyor from Battersea
to Vauxhall and then we wouldn't need the railway ;-)

I wonder if when that extension is built and the line is
operationally split in 2 whether one half of the line will be given
a new name or whether it'll still all be known as the northern line?

Logically two independent lines should have two names. Independent
from a customer facing standpoint that is. It would be no surprise
if they still exchanged empty stock movements.

If the bits that were the "Charing Cross, Euston and Hampstead
Railway" remain together, the "Hampstead Line" has a good ring to it.

Or, how about something royal? "The Queen Elizabeth Line", "The
Charles, Prince of Wales Line", or "The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Line". I suspect in every day speech these would become the QE2,
Charlie, or Duchess Lines respectively. :-)

TfL could celebrate a great politician: "The Cromwell Line", "The
Winston Spencer Churchill Line", or, especially the part that
includes the Barnett Branch "The Baroness Thatcher Line".


That last one would probably make half the passengers want to
puke.......

You are believing your own leftist propaganda. Allow me to paint a
more realistic pictu
More than half of the potential users of the route just would not
care. Sad, but welcome to the modern apathetic world.

A healthy number would be happy to see the Iron Lady so honored.

A boisterous left wing minority would make a lot of obscene fuss. They
would use the methods at their disposal, vandalism, graffiti et al.
This says more about them than the great lady.

LU would be stupid to use a name which would obviously attract graffiti.


Superficially you have a point Basil. But, why should conservatives
only see the names of leftist "heroes" honoured, and not our own,
merely because we do not resort to illegal and antisocial tactics.

Let's take your point a step further: why fight Islamic State, doing
so may bring about more terrorists attacks in Europe and North
America.

Never let the scum win.


We very rarely name public facilities after party politicians. Things (e.g.
the Cambridge college) have been named after Churchill precisely because he
is seen as a national saviour, above party politics. Perception is all of
course. Nobody has suggested naming anything after Wilson either and he's a
less controversial figure than Thatcher.


That has much to do with media coverage. Wilson's capital controls,
prices and incomes, and high tax policies did immense damage. Brains
and capital simply left Britain.

Much of the Baronesses success was down to repairing Wilson's damage.
That is not the way the TV, Radio and the press reported it.


Roland Perry January 1st 16 10:49 AM

By London Northern Line to Battersea
 
In message
-septe
mber.org, at 10:21:55 on Fri, 1 Jan 2016, Recliner
remarked:
And while SDO is just about OK for dealing with the last one or two sets of
doors off the platforms at quiet stations, the idea of having whole
carriages not on the platform on a busy metro packed with many foreign
visitors is ludicrous


That's a complete non-argument. After having been caught out once, the
foreigners will avoid the end-coaches for the rest of their trip to
London. Simples.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry January 1st 16 10:56 AM

By London's Northern Line to Battersea
 
In message , at 05:01:54
on Fri, 1 Jan 2016, remarked:

Nobody has suggested naming anything after Wilson either and he's a
less controversial figure than Thatcher.


Things? (Other than a street in the West Midlands)

He has the "Wilson Doctrine" of course.
--
Roland Perry

[email protected] January 1st 16 12:35 PM

By London's Northern Line to Battersea
 
In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
05:01:54 on Fri, 1 Jan 2016,
remarked:

Nobody has suggested naming anything after Wilson either and he's a
less controversial figure than Thatcher.


Things? (Other than a street in the West Midlands)

He has the "Wilson Doctrine" of course.


and there is Thatcherism to which some here seem to subscribe.

--
Colin Rosenstiel


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