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On 01/01/2016 09:50, e27002 aurora wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 20:23:11 +0000, BevanPrice
wrote:

On 29/12/2015 11:15, e27002 aurora wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 21:05:52 GMT, d
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2015 14:25:15 +0000 Basil Jet
wrote:
I notice that "Nine Elms" roundels have gone up all over the
hoarding surrounding the former Sainsburys opposite Wilcox
Road.

Boris has also ceremonially started a conveyor belt from the
Battersea station site to the Thames.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcjSnzw38iI

Maybe they should have just built a two way conveyor from
Battersea to Vauxhall and then we wouldn't need the railway
;-)

I wonder if when that extension is built and the line is
operationally split in 2 whether one half of the line will be
given a new name or whether it'll still all be known as the
northern line?

Logically two independent lines should have two names.
Independent from a customer facing standpoint that is. It would
be no surprise if they still exchanged empty stock movements.

If the bits that were the "Charing Cross, Euston and Hampstead
Railway" remain together, the "Hampstead Line" has a good ring to
it.

Or, how about something royal? "The Queen Elizabeth Line", "The
Charles, Prince of Wales Line", or "The Duke and Duchess of
Cambridge Line". I suspect in every day speech these would
become the QE2, Charlie, or Duchess Lines respectively. :-)

TfL could celebrate a great politician: "The Cromwell Line",
"The Winston Spencer Churchill Line", or, especially the part
that includes the Barnett Branch "The Baroness Thatcher Line".


That last one would probably make half the passengers want to
puke.......

You are believing your own leftist propaganda. Allow me to paint a
more realistic pictu More than half of the potential users of the
route just would not care. Sad, but welcome to the modern apathetic
world.

A healthy number would be happy to see the Iron Lady so honored.

A boisterous left wing minority would make a lot of obscene fuss.
They would use the methods at their disposal, vandalism, graffiti et
al. This says more about them than the great lady.


The she-devil whose policies in her first parliament led to unemployment
increasing (on average) by nearly 2000 jobs -- every single day ?? The
one who I saw strutting around on TV looking as if she thought she ought
to be Queen ? The one whose policies encouraged greed & selfishness ?
The one who gave her son a knighthood for "goodness knows what" services
to our country ? The one that Macmillan described as "selling the family
siver" ?

You are more than welcome to her (memory).

No - Labour wasn't perfect either. This country probably had a great PM
for only 5 years in the 20th century - Churchill during WW2, for
inspiring us to resist the evils of Hitler & co. .

But a Happy New Year to everyone here.



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On 2016\01\01 10:31, Roland Perry wrote:
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mber.org, at 10:12:52 on Fri, 1 Jan 2016, Recliner
remarked:

And apart from the Victoria line, which is really named after Victoria
station, rather than the queen herself, that's long been the
tradition. Far
better to have anodyne, vaguely geographic names.


Where's the vague geographic location of 'the Jubilee'?


I don't know about the Jubi bit, but the Lee runs from Stratford down to
Canning Town and then flows into the Thames opposite North Greenwich.
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In message , at 15:44:35 on Fri, 1 Jan 2016,
Basil Jet remarked:

Far better to have anodyne, vaguely geographic names.


Where's the vague geographic location of 'the Jubilee'?


I don't know about the Jubi bit, but the Lee runs from Stratford down
to Canning Town and then flows into the Thames opposite North Greenwich.


I think you'll finds that's the Lea (cf Leagrave the source).

Of transport interest the nearby canal has some locks where the keeper
used to answer the phone [say it quickly] Bow Locks.

Lee[1], and its station, are near Lewisham.

[1] Almost an anagram of Ely, and another of the few stations whose code
is the same as the station.
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On 2016\01\01 15:58, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 15:44:35 on Fri, 1 Jan 2016,
Basil Jet remarked:

Far better to have anodyne, vaguely geographic names.

Where's the vague geographic location of 'the Jubilee'?


I don't know about the Jubi bit, but the Lee runs from Stratford down
to Canning Town and then flows into the Thames opposite North Greenwich.


I think you'll finds that's the Lea (cf Leagrave the source).




Either spelling is good.
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On Fri, 1 Jan 2016 15:26:54 +0000, BevanPrice
wrote:

On 01/01/2016 09:50, e27002 aurora wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 20:23:11 +0000, BevanPrice
wrote:

On 29/12/2015 11:15, e27002 aurora wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 21:05:52 GMT, d
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2015 14:25:15 +0000 Basil Jet
wrote:
I notice that "Nine Elms" roundels have gone up all over the
hoarding surrounding the former Sainsburys opposite Wilcox
Road.

Boris has also ceremonially started a conveyor belt from the
Battersea station site to the Thames.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcjSnzw38iI

Maybe they should have just built a two way conveyor from
Battersea to Vauxhall and then we wouldn't need the railway
;-)

I wonder if when that extension is built and the line is
operationally split in 2 whether one half of the line will be
given a new name or whether it'll still all be known as the
northern line?

Logically two independent lines should have two names.
Independent from a customer facing standpoint that is. It would
be no surprise if they still exchanged empty stock movements.

If the bits that were the "Charing Cross, Euston and Hampstead
Railway" remain together, the "Hampstead Line" has a good ring to
it.

Or, how about something royal? "The Queen Elizabeth Line", "The
Charles, Prince of Wales Line", or "The Duke and Duchess of
Cambridge Line". I suspect in every day speech these would
become the QE2, Charlie, or Duchess Lines respectively. :-)

TfL could celebrate a great politician: "The Cromwell Line",
"The Winston Spencer Churchill Line", or, especially the part
that includes the Barnett Branch "The Baroness Thatcher Line".


That last one would probably make half the passengers want to
puke.......

You are believing your own leftist propaganda. Allow me to paint a
more realistic pictu More than half of the potential users of the
route just would not care. Sad, but welcome to the modern apathetic
world.

A healthy number would be happy to see the Iron Lady so honored.

A boisterous left wing minority would make a lot of obscene fuss.
They would use the methods at their disposal, vandalism, graffiti et
al. This says more about them than the great lady.


The she-devil


There's a well though thru opener.

whose policies in her first parliament led to unemployment
increasing (on average) by nearly 2000 jobs -- every single day ??


If these jobs were real they would have survived. There were the
result of an inflated socialized economy. Firms that should have
failed were propped up to maintain Wilson's and Callaghan's
popularity. Most were nests of socialist dissent.

Look if you had cancer would you want the surgeon to feed it, or cut
it out?

The
one who I saw strutting around on TV looking as if she thought she ought
to be Queen ? The one whose policies encouraged greed & selfishness ?


Cite.

The one who gave her son a knighthood for "goodness knows what" services
to our country ?


She was not perfect. Did you ever consider the knighthoods Wilson
gave for favors rendered?

The one that Macmillan described as "selling the family
siver" ?


MacMillan, the man whose cabinet dragged the UK into the mud, an
embarrassment to Conservatism.

You are more than welcome to her (memory).


Thank you.

No - Labour wasn't perfect either. This country probably had a great PM
for only 5 years in the 20th century - Churchill


Almost certainly England's second greatest parliamentary leader. IMHO
Baroness Thatcher comes in @ number 4.

during WW2, for
inspiring us to resist the evils of Hitler & co. .


Well at least we agree on something. Yes, he led the UK and her
allies in the defeat of National Socialism. The other forms of
Socialism survived.

But a Happy New Year to everyone here.


Amen.




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On Fri, 1 Jan 2016 10:24:52 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
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2. The SWT were an announcement makes it clear that passengers wishing
to exit at the next station must be in the front seven cars. The
doors of the rear car will not open.


Apart from you, how many foreigners with little English travel on SWT
trains?


I see quite a number alighting at Salisbury station, enough that the
tourist tour bus to Stonehenge departs from the station as well the
city center.
Porstmouth has a number of foreign passengers due to the cross channel
ferry services .


Yes, good examples. No SDO needed at those stations, though.

I wonder how many foreigners with poor English use the smaller stations
with short platforms where SDO is used, or whole carriages aren't
platformed?

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In message , at 16:10:34 on Fri, 1 Jan 2016,
Basil Jet remarked:
Far better to have anodyne, vaguely geographic names.

Where's the vague geographic location of 'the Jubilee'?

I don't know about the Jubi bit, but the Lee runs from Stratford down
to Canning Town and then flows into the Thames opposite North Greenwich.


I think you'll finds that's the Lea (cf Leagrave the source).



4t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s1o91VgAzLyYLhzbkd36Ivg!2e0?for ce=lite

Either spelling is good.


Even both in the same breath:

https://www.visitleevalley.org.uk/en...utdoors/walks-
walking/the-lea-valley-walk/
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On Fri, 01 Jan 2016 16:25:21 +0000, e27002 aurora
wrote:

On Fri, 1 Jan 2016 15:26:54 +0000, BevanPrice
wrote:

On 01/01/2016 09:50, e27002 aurora wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 20:23:11 +0000, BevanPrice
wrote:

On 29/12/2015 11:15, e27002 aurora wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 21:05:52 GMT, d
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2015 14:25:15 +0000 Basil Jet
wrote:
I notice that "Nine Elms" roundels have gone up all over the
hoarding surrounding the former Sainsburys opposite Wilcox
Road.

Boris has also ceremonially started a conveyor belt from the
Battersea station site to the Thames.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcjSnzw38iI

Maybe they should have just built a two way conveyor from
Battersea to Vauxhall and then we wouldn't need the railway
;-)

I wonder if when that extension is built and the line is
operationally split in 2 whether one half of the line will be
given a new name or whether it'll still all be known as the
northern line?

Logically two independent lines should have two names.
Independent from a customer facing standpoint that is. It would
be no surprise if they still exchanged empty stock movements.

If the bits that were the "Charing Cross, Euston and Hampstead
Railway" remain together, the "Hampstead Line" has a good ring to
it.

Or, how about something royal? "The Queen Elizabeth Line", "The
Charles, Prince of Wales Line", or "The Duke and Duchess of
Cambridge Line". I suspect in every day speech these would
become the QE2, Charlie, or Duchess Lines respectively. :-)

TfL could celebrate a great politician: "The Cromwell Line",
"The Winston Spencer Churchill Line", or, especially the part
that includes the Barnett Branch "The Baroness Thatcher Line".


That last one would probably make half the passengers want to
puke.......

You are believing your own leftist propaganda. Allow me to paint a
more realistic pictu More than half of the potential users of the
route just would not care. Sad, but welcome to the modern apathetic
world.

A healthy number would be happy to see the Iron Lady so honored.

A boisterous left wing minority would make a lot of obscene fuss.
They would use the methods at their disposal, vandalism, graffiti et
al. This says more about them than the great lady.


The she-devil


There's a well though thru opener.

There's a well-constructed sentence ?

whose policies in her first parliament led to unemployment
increasing (on average) by nearly 2000 jobs -- every single day ??


If these jobs were real they would have survived. There were the
result of an inflated socialized economy. Firms that should have
failed were propped up to maintain Wilson's and Callaghan's
popularity. Most were nests of socialist dissent.

Government is supposed to work for the whole country not just those
who line the party pockets. Some sectors of industry (public or
private) cannot be run on purely commercial grounds and can result in
costing the country more (via unemployment benefit, consequential
costs to others etc.) if allowed to shut down rather than supported.
Thatcher shut many things down with little regard to strategic
necessity or the eventual effects on imports.

Look if you had cancer would you want the surgeon to feed it, or cut
it out?

The
one who I saw strutting around on TV looking as if she thought she ought
to be Queen ? The one whose policies encouraged greed & selfishness ?


Cite.

The one who gave her son a knighthood for "goodness knows what" services
to our country ?


She was not perfect. Did you ever consider the knighthoods Wilson
gave for favors rendered?

The one that Macmillan described as "selling the family
siver" ?


MacMillan, the man whose cabinet dragged the UK into the mud, an
embarrassment to Conservatism.

You are more than welcome to her (memory).


Thank you.

No - Labour wasn't perfect either. This country probably had a great PM
for only 5 years in the 20th century - Churchill


Almost certainly England's second greatest parliamentary leader. IMHO
Baroness Thatcher comes in @ number 4.

during WW2, for
inspiring us to resist the evils of Hitler & co. .


Well at least we agree on something. Yes, he led the UK and her
allies in the defeat of National Socialism. The other forms of
Socialism survived.

You're easily fooled by a label. There was nothing socialist about
fascism.

But a Happy New Year to everyone here.


Amen.

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On Fri, 1 Jan 2016 09:59:36 +0000, Basil Jet
wrote:

On 2016\01\01 09:50, e27002 aurora wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 20:23:11 +0000, BevanPrice
wrote:

On 29/12/2015 11:15, e27002 aurora wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 21:05:52 GMT,
d wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2015 14:25:15 +0000
Basil Jet
wrote:
I notice that "Nine Elms" roundels have gone up all over the hoarding
surrounding the former Sainsburys opposite Wilcox Road.

Boris has also ceremonially started a conveyor belt from the Battersea
station site to the Thames.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcjSnzw38iI

Maybe they should have just built a two way conveyor from Battersea to
Vauxhall and then we wouldn't need the railway ;-)

I wonder if when that extension is built and the line is operationally split
in 2 whether one half of the line will be given a new name or whether it'll
still all be known as the northern line?

Logically two independent lines should have two names. Independent
from a customer facing standpoint that is. It would be no surprise if
they still exchanged empty stock movements.

If the bits that were the "Charing Cross, Euston and Hampstead
Railway" remain together, the "Hampstead Line" has a good ring to it.

Or, how about something royal? "The Queen Elizabeth Line", "The
Charles, Prince of Wales Line", or "The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Line". I suspect in every day speech these would become the QE2,
Charlie, or Duchess Lines respectively. :-)

TfL could celebrate a great politician: "The Cromwell Line", "The
Winston Spencer Churchill Line", or, especially the part that includes
the Barnett Branch "The Baroness Thatcher Line".


That last one would probably make half the passengers want to puke.......

You are believing your own leftist propaganda. Allow me to paint a
more realistic pictu
More than half of the potential users of the route just would not
care. Sad, but welcome to the modern apathetic world.

A healthy number would be happy to see the Iron Lady so honored.

A boisterous left wing minority would make a lot of obscene fuss. They
would use the methods at their disposal, vandalism, graffiti et al.
This says more about them than the great lady.


LU would be stupid to use a name which would obviously attract graffiti.


Superficially you have a point Basil. But, why should conservatives
only see the names of leftist "heroes" honoured, and not our own,
merely because we do not resort to illegal and antisocial tactics.

Let's take your point a step further: why fight Islamic State, doing
so may bring about more terrorists attacks in Europe and North
America.

Never let the scum win.
People who dislike Margaret Thatcher are not scum. People
who would be offended by her name being given to a tube
line are not scum. Please keep your hero-worshipping
adulation under control.


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