Overground line maps
This blog post is interesting http://www.stationmasterapp.com/blog...carriage-maps/ Personally, I reckon these new individual line maps will be even more confusing. When are TfL, usually pioneers in clear communication of service information, going to rid us of this madness and accept that different Overground lines need different identities? Lew |
Overground line maps
On 2016\02\17 12:43, Lew 1 wrote:
This blog post is interesting http://www.stationmasterapp.com/blog...carriage-maps/ Personally, I reckon these new individual line maps will be even more confusing. When are TfL, usually pioneers in clear communication of service information, going to rid us of this madness and accept that different Overground lines need different identities? Agree 100%. I notice that the NLL/WLL line map seems to imply that a zone 3 Travelcard is no good for a trip from Willesden Junction to Acton Central, because you pass through Zone 2, which is wrong I believe. |
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Lew 1 wrote: This blog post is interesting http://www.stationmasterapp.com/blog...carriage-maps/ Personally, I reckon these new individual line maps will be even more confusing. When are TfL, usually pioneers in clear communication of service information, going to rid us of this madness and accept that different Overground lines need different identities? They're no more complicated than the multiple line diagrams found on parts of the SSL (e.g. Wimbleware + Circle + H&C). -- Mike Bristow |
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In article , Lew 1 wrote: This blog post is interesting http://www.stationmasterapp.com/blog...carriage-maps/ Personally, I reckon these new individual line maps will be even more confusing. When are TfL, usually pioneers in clear communication of service information, going to rid us of this madness and accept that different Overground lines need different identities? They're no more complicated than the multiple line diagrams found on parts of the SSL (e.g. Wimbleware + Circle + H&C). Except they have separate line names with the one that you are on announced at every station... Lew |
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I reckon that the District line is of the maximum complexity that can be covered by a single line identity. The expanded London Overground is now way beyond that level of complexity, and is crying out for a range of line identities. And those identities should not just be the end points, that is what is wrong with how directions are indicated on the Paris Metro - you can determine the compass direction by only consulting the local part of a map, but to identify a line and/or direction by a destination requires viewing a lot more of the map.
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 05:18:56 -0800 (PST)
Steve Lewis wrote: I reckon that the District line is of the maximum complexity that can be co= vered by a single line identity. The expanded London Overground is now way = beyond that level of complexity, and is crying out for a range of line iden= tities. And those identities should not just be the end points, that is wha= Agreed. But also the DLR to a lesser extent. -- Spud |
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On Wednesday, 17 February 2016 15:20:59 UTC, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2016\02\17 12:43, Lew 1 wrote: This blog post is interesting http://www.stationmasterapp.com/blog...carriage-maps/ Personally, I reckon these new individual line maps will be even more confusing. When are TfL, usually pioneers in clear communication of service information, going to rid us of this madness and accept that different Overground lines need different identities? Agree 100%. I notice that the NLL/WLL line map seems to imply that a zone 3 Travelcard is no good for a trip from Willesden Junction to Acton Central, because you pass through Zone 2, which is wrong I believe. I'd re-design it to put the Clapham Junction branch under the Stratford line. If you do this, then Willesden Jn could be shown as split zone 2/3. I'd also show Stratford as zone 2 not zone 2/3, because what you'd be charged (like how Elephant & Castle is shown on Bakerloo line zone maps) |
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Steve Lewis wrote: I reckon that the District line is of the maximum complexity that can be covered by a single line identity. The expanded London Overground is now way beyond that level of complexity, and is crying out for a range of line identities. Try looking at T1 and T2 on the Sydney network. Imagine being on the platform at Chatswood when a Epping train is announced and you want to go there. And as for identifying the first train to the airport from Town Hall ... -- Clive D.W. Feather | Home: Mobile: +44 7973 377646 | Web: http://www.davros.org Please reply to the Reply-To address, which is: |
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On 2016\02\18 13:18, Steve Lewis wrote:
I reckon that the District line is of the maximum complexity that can be covered by a single line identity. Actually it is past it... the Wimbleware should be a separate line (sharing track to Wimbledon with the District Line). The signage at Paddington for the Circle Line is also a nightmare... especially the bizarre and enigmatic enamel sign split in two on platform 12 or thereabouts (perhaps Damien Hirst did it). |
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wrote: On 2016\02\18 22:04, wrote: In article , (Basil Jet) wrote: On 2016\02\18 13:18, Steve Lewis wrote: I reckon that the District line is of the maximum complexity that can be covered by a single line identity. Actually it is past it... the Wimbleware should be a separate line (sharing track to Wimbledon with the District Line). The signage at Paddington for the Circle Line is also a nightmare... especially the bizarre and enigmatic enamel sign split in two on platform 12 or thereabouts (perhaps Damien Hirst did it). I agree the signs to Paddington underground at present should point people firmly to the H&C platforms unless they are going to High St etc. I think it does, but it's still confusing. So, towards the footbridge on all platforms? Wasn't last time I went there but it is a little time ago. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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On 2016\02\19 13:10, wrote:
In article , (Basil Jet) wrote: On 2016\02\18 22:04, wrote: In article , (Basil Jet) wrote: On 2016\02\18 13:18, Steve Lewis wrote: I reckon that the District line is of the maximum complexity that can be covered by a single line identity. Actually it is past it... the Wimbleware should be a separate line (sharing track to Wimbledon with the District Line). The signage at Paddington for the Circle Line is also a nightmare... especially the bizarre and enigmatic enamel sign split in two on platform 12 or thereabouts (perhaps Damien Hirst did it). I agree the signs to Paddington underground at present should point people firmly to the H&C platforms unless they are going to High St etc. I think it does, but it's still confusing. So, towards the footbridge on all platforms? I don't know about that, but once you're at the Praed Street end of the platforms you are routed back past platform 12 to the H&C. I'll check the platforms in a few days. Maybe the Circle Line should only run from Liverpool Street to Edgware Road via the south side, with Circles become H&Cs at Liverpool Street so the same timetable would operate but with a different presentation. |
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wrote: On 2016\02\19 13:10, wrote: In article , (Basil Jet) wrote: On 2016\02\18 22:04, wrote: In article , (Basil Jet) wrote: On 2016\02\18 13:18, Steve Lewis wrote: I reckon that the District line is of the maximum complexity that can be covered by a single line identity. Actually it is past it... the Wimbleware should be a separate line (sharing track to Wimbledon with the District Line). The signage at Paddington for the Circle Line is also a nightmare... especially the bizarre and enigmatic enamel sign split in two on platform 12 or thereabouts (perhaps Damien Hirst did it). I agree the signs to Paddington underground at present should point people firmly to the H&C platforms unless they are going to High St etc. I think it does, but it's still confusing. So, towards the footbridge on all platforms? I don't know about that, but once you're at the Praed Street end of the platforms you are routed back past platform 12 to the H&C. I'll check the platforms in a few days. That was my complaint. Most long distance standard class passengers pass the footbridge on their way to the Lawn. Maybe the Circle Line should only run from Liverpool Street to Edgware Road via the south side, with Circles become H&Cs at Liverpool Street so the same timetable would operate but with a different presentation. If it means trains through Edgware Road between Paddington and King's Cross that would be good. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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On 2016\02\19 13:38, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2016\02\19 13:10, wrote: In article , (Basil Jet) wrote: On 2016\02\18 22:04, wrote: In article , (Basil Jet) wrote: On 2016\02\18 13:18, Steve Lewis wrote: I reckon that the District line is of the maximum complexity that can be covered by a single line identity. Actually it is past it... the Wimbleware should be a separate line (sharing track to Wimbledon with the District Line). The signage at Paddington for the Circle Line is also a nightmare... especially the bizarre and enigmatic enamel sign split in two on platform 12 or thereabouts (perhaps Damien Hirst did it). I agree the signs to Paddington underground at present should point people firmly to the H&C platforms unless they are going to High St etc. I think it does, but it's still confusing. So, towards the footbridge on all platforms? I don't know about that, but once you're at the Praed Street end of the platforms you are routed back past platform 12 to the H&C. I'll check the platforms in a few days. I checked this morning... the totems on the platforms point you to the footbridge if you want the "Circle line via Kings Cross", and to the lawn if you want the "Circle line via Victoria". But there are only two totems per island platform, so it's nowhere near as informative as the instant-interchange-info-in-your-face that you get on a tube platform. And there is no sign for the "Circle line via Ladbroke Grove", although there is a sign for the Hammersmith & City line. |
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