In message , at 19:24:53 on Mon, 25 Apr
2016, tim... remarked:
Unfortunately that looks like a Parking restriction, not a Waiting
restriction.

I don't think you can have a session-limited "No Waiting" sign.

As no unattended parking is allowed by the Police, what's the
difference between a Waiting and a Parking restriction?

That's not a compulsory sign, though. And the whole problem is that
the police *don't* enforce anything in practice.

surely that's because it has been "devolved" to the council

LAPE, but the things mentioned in the "Police" notice are not within
their jurisdiction.

I spent ten minutes there earlier today, and it's a toss-up between
people who think that if they put on their hazard flashers it allows
them to leave the vehicle unoccupied, or parked there for ten+ minutes
occupied; and those who do both of those, but don't stick their hazard
flashers on.
--
Roland Perry

In article , d () wrote:

On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 14:18:29 +0100
David Cantrell wrote:
On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 06:13:47PM +0100, JNugent wrote:

There's always been a good case for the advance booking period for a
so-called "private hire car" to be at least twenty-four hours.

No there hasn't.

Imagine, for example, that you are in an industrial estate in Peckham.
There are no black cabs cruising the industrial estate looking for
passengers.

How do you get home?

Bus or train?

At 3 in the morning? Good luck with that.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 19:24:53 on Mon, 25 Apr
2016, tim... remarked:
Unfortunately that looks like a Parking restriction, not a Waiting
restriction.

I don't think you can have a session-limited "No Waiting" sign.

As no unattended parking is allowed by the Police, what's the
difference between a Waiting and a Parking restriction?

That's not a compulsory sign, though. And the whole problem is that
the police *don't* enforce anything in practice.

surely that's because it has been "devolved" to the council

LAPE, but the things mentioned in the "Police" notice are not within
their jurisdiction.

I spent ten minutes there earlier today, and it's a toss-up between
people who think that if they put on their hazard flashers it allows
them to leave the vehicle unoccupied, or parked there for ten+ minutes
occupied; and those who do both of those, but don't stick their hazard
flashers on.

The police are a lot more fierce about moving cars along in the Heathrow
drop off lanes. It's now much harder for mini cabs to pick up their booked
fares from those lanes than in the past.

On 25/04/2016 21:32, wrote:

In article , d () wrote:

On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 14:18:29 +0100
David Cantrell wrote:
On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 06:13:47PM +0100, JNugent wrote:

There's always been a good case for the advance booking period for a
so-called "private hire car" to be at least twenty-four hours.

No there hasn't.

Imagine, for example, that you are in an industrial estate in Peckham.
There are no black cabs cruising the industrial estate looking for
passengers.

How do you get home?

Bus or train?

At 3 in the morning? Good luck with that.


Peckham night buses:
http://content.tfl.gov.uk/bus-route-maps/peckham-night-a4-2015.pdf

SE London night buses:
http://content.tfl.gov.uk/bus-route-maps/south-east-london-night-120915.pdf

Night bus network is well patronised by shift/night workers as well as
revellers and others.

On 25/04/2016 14:18, David Cantrell wrote:
On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 06:13:47PM +0100, JNugent wrote:

There's always been a good case for the advance booking period for a
so-called "private hire car" to be at least twenty-four hours.

No there hasn't.

Imagine, for example, that you are in an industrial estate in Peckham.
There are no black cabs cruising the industrial estate looking for
passengers.

How do you get home?

By calling a cab on the telephone?

On 25/04/2016 14:18, David Cantrell wrote:

On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 06:13:47PM +0100, JNugent wrote:

There's always been a good case for the advance booking period for a
so-called "private hire car" to be at least twenty-four hours.

No there hasn't.
Imagine, for example, that you are in an industrial estate in Peckham.
There are no black cabs cruising the industrial estate looking for
passengers.
How do you get home?

The whole reason why unlicensed* "private hire cars" (so-called) can
operate with their unlicensed* drivers is a loophole in the law which
distinguishes immediate hirings from advance bookings.

Immediate hirings - taxis.

Advance bookings - taxis (of course) *or* "private hire cars".

But unless a significant minimum period for that advance booking is
established and enforced, in practice, the law prohibiting unlicensed
plying-for-hire cannot be operated properly.

[* "licensed" here means licensed as a taxi or as a taxi-driver.]

Exactly. You've summed it up perfectly.

O. K. How about this then? A young mother is at work and
receives a phone call from her son's school. He's had a serious
accident and needs to be taken to a doctor and then probably
home. Obviously the mother needs to get to the school as
quickly as possible. Neither bus nor train will get the job done
so she needs a cab. She's in the suburbs where black cabs are
rarely found, so a minicab is the obvious mode of transport.

Our black cab propagandist wants her to wait 24 hours. I make
no comment.

In message
-septe
mber.org, at 21:08:12 on Mon, 25 Apr 2016, Recliner
remarked:

The police are a lot more fierce about moving cars along in the Heathrow
drop off lanes. It's now much harder for mini cabs to pick up their booked
fares from those lanes than in the past.

Not just that, but there's heaps of signage that makes it very clear
that the lanes are *drop off only* and that for pickup people should use
the short stay carparks.

Perhaps if someone were to drive a car bomb into a Glasgow station,
rather than their airport terminal, things might change.
--
Roland Perry

In message , at 17:59:12 on Mon, 25
Apr 2016, Robin9 remarked:
Boris Johnson introduced a one-strike-and-you're-out policy
regarding private hire drivers touting for business. If they are
caught doing it, they lose their private hire license which means
no licensed cab firm can give them work.

But the Uber drivers are mainly self-employed.
--
Roland Perry