Mizter T wrote:
On 06/05/2016 08:55, Recliner wrote:

Graeme Wall wrote:
On 05/05/2016 13:42, Recliner wrote:
- The Heathrow Airport terminal signs all promote Heathrow Express,
barely mentioning the Tube or Heathrow Connect. But there's never any
mention of the higher fares:

Hardly surprising as the former is owned by the Airport and the last two
abstract revenue from it.

Indeed so, though I think HAL also gets a share of the fares from both of
the latter. I don't know if this is from all terminals, or just T5, as HAL
paid for the Piccadilly Line extension from T23 to T5.

I think the only arrangement is that HAL keeps all the income from LU
ticket sales at T5, in exchange for building (and maintaining?) the
extension and T5 station (and staffing the latter). I'm pretty sure
there's nowt re the other Heathrow LU stations.

Surely HAL doesn't get it keep *all* the fare revenue collected at T5? I
can understand it getting a chunk to reflect paying for the extension and
station, but those fares also cover the rest of the journeys across London.
Of course, HAL presumably gets none of the outbound revenues, so assuming
they're about equal, HAL is only getting half the total revenue .



Heathrow Connect isn't quite in direct competition with HEx, not least
because it is run by the Heathrow Express Operating Company! There's an
arrangement between HAL/HEOC and the GWML franchisee (currently GWR)
regarding Heathrow Connect providing local train services on the line
from H&H into Paddington.

Yes, considering that HAL also owns HEx, it's interesting how little
prominence it gets. I suppose HAL would much rather collect the higher
fares on HEx. It probably regards HC as primarily for staff, not pax.