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In message , at 14:02:01 on Sat, 14 May 2016,
tim... remarked:
The TfL site is astonishingly opaque regarding what cars are allowed or
not. They can't even be bothered to install a query based on
numberplate.

It appears to say that Euro 6 diesel cars must be less than 5years old,
but doesn't mention any of the former Euro ratings.


NO

What it is saying is that vehicles of this age are guaranteed to be Euro 6
compliant (because that is the date that manufactures were required to
meet E6).

Older vehicles may be compliant if their particular model met Euro 6
standards before the required date.

Euro 5(D) cars will never be compliant whatever their age


Like I said, astonishingly opaque.


I don't think that, not giving a list of all modes with applicable
manufacturing dates (as, for example, the German equivalent site does) is
"opaque".

ISTM that the rule is quite clear (even if both you and Recliner have
mis-understood it).

You just have to go somewhere else to find out whether you qualify

My V5 doesn't say what Euro-foo the car is, and TfL can't be bothered to
help. Wonkypedia doesn't say either. After a lot of digging it appears to
be Euro 4 (diesel).


It isn't TfL's fault that DVLA implemented this change late

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On Sat, 14 May 2016 13:05:24 +0100, Roland Perry
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In message 2016051411282448156-email@domaincom, at 11:28:24 on Sat, 14
May 2016, eastender remarked:
•Extending the Ultra-Low Emission Zone (ULEZ) to the North Circular Road
and the South Circular Road and the possibility of bringing forward the
introduction earlier than 2020. Under current plans the ULEZ will only
operate within the Congestion Charging Zone and it is due to come in from
2020.


This will affect a large number of cars in poorer areas I reckon. I
guess it has to happen though. I think it will knock out our car, a
2005 Volvo, a petrol model that has many thousands of miles left in it
and is no smoky diesel.


The TfL site is astonishingly opaque regarding what cars are allowed or
not. They can't even be bothered to install a query based on
numberplate.

It appears to say that Euro 6 diesel cars must be less than 5years old,
but doesn't mention any of the former Euro ratings.


They won't be allowed in free at all. What they mean is that when the
rule comes in, only diesels under five years old will be given free
admission, and that was when the Euro 6 standard became mandatory.
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In message , at 14:14:46 on
Sat, 14 May 2016, Recliner remarked:

It appears to say that Euro 6 diesel cars must be less than 5years old,
but doesn't mention any of the former Euro ratings.


They won't be allowed in free at all. What they mean is that when the
rule comes in, only diesels under five years old will be given free
admission, and that was when the Euro 6 standard became mandatory.


Are they getting a kick-back from manufacturers of compliant cars?
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