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I looked back a couple of weeks and didn't see a thread about this, so
thought I'd start one. LUL are planning to cut ticket office opening
hours (again), suggesting that its because more people are using
Oyster. Whatever you think of the reason, hey here's a list of
proposed closures.

TOTAL CLOSURES: Barkingside, Becontree, Boston Manor, Buckhurst Hill,
Cannon Street, Canons Park, Chesham, Chiswick Park, Chorleywood,
Croxley, Debden, East Putney, Fairlop, Hornchurch, Goldhawk road,
Ickenham, Latimer Road, Mansion House, Mill Hill East, Moor Park,
North Ealing, North Harrow, Northwood Hills, Park Royal, Perivale,
Ravenscourt Park, Regents Park, Royal Oak, Ruislip, Ruislip Gardens,
South Ruislip, Sudbury Hill, Temple, Totteridge & Whetstone, Upney,
West Acton, West Finchley, West Harrow, West Ruislip, Wimbledon Park,
Canary Wharf (East), Seven Sisters (B), Southwark (West), Oxford
circus (Argyll Street), Waterlook (International).

WEEKEND CLOSURES: Bow Road, Bromley-by-Bow, Chalfont & Latimer,
Dagenham East, Elm Park, Goodge Street, Hainault, Mornington Crescent,
South Harrow, Sudbury Town, Wanstead, Westbourne Park.

SUNDAY CLOSURES: Alperton, Baker Street (Met), Barbican, Dagenham
Heathway, Eastcote, Euston Square, Great Portland Street, Hillingdon,
Northwick Park, Northwood, Pinner, Rickmansworth, Ruislip Manor,
Shepherds Bush (H&C), Watford.

SATURDAY CLOSURES: Moorgate (man), Waterlook (Shell).

WEEKDAY CLOSURES: Bow Road 10am to 4pm, Dollis HIll 1.30 to 4pm,
Epping 4 to 7pm, High Barnet 1.30 to 4pm, Kennington 2 to 4.30pm,
Lambeth North 2.30 to 4.30 pm, Loughton 12 to 3pm, Mornington Crescent
11am to 4.30pm, South Woodford 1.30 to 4.30pm, Tufnell Park 2 to 5pm,
Warwick Avenue 2 to 5pm, Waterloo (Shell) 10am to 2pm, Woodford 1.30
to 4.30pm.

AFTERNOON CLOSURES: Cockfosters, Dagenham East, Hainault, Hillingdon,
Northwood, Pinner, Redbridge, Rickmansworth, Ruislip Manor,
Snaresbrook, South Harrow, Wanstead, Watford, Westbourne Park,
Woodside Park.

You'll know how busy your own local ticket office gets, and how this
may affect you, so its up to your judgement what you wanna do about
it, but here's some places to send your views.

Write to your MP c/o House of Commons, London SW1A 0AA.
Write to Ken Livingstone c/o City Hall, The Queens Walk, London SE1
2AA.
Sign the online petition at http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/tubetickets/.
Contact the RMT about their campaign to be kept up to date of what
they're doing about it... c/o Unity House, 39 Charlton Street, London,
NW1 1JD.

Thats the info as I've seen it published. All I can see is that
closures will leave Oyster users (who do have problems from *time to
time*) with no direct port of call to resolve problems... and then
there's the people who DON'T have Oysters, who will be left to fend
for themselves. I'm not going to try and start a political debate
here, just providing information for you to do as you wish.


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On 13 Jul, 19:43, Cyril Sneer wrote:
Thats the info as I've seen it published. All I can see is that
closures will leave Oyster users (who do have problems from *time to
time*) with no direct port of call to resolve problems... and then
there's the people who DON'T have Oysters, who will be left to fend
for themselves. I'm not going to try and start a political debate
here, just providing information for you to do as you wish.


It's been mentioned before. When Theydon bois's only Oyster ticket
machine is broken (which frequently happens), you can allegedly top up
and pay at your destination.

The main beneift is, instead of a staffed ticket office window, you
have a guy or 3 sat in the ticket office reading the paper or talking.
They are helpful when you attract their attention, however they aren't
allowed to sell you a ticket (I don't think they even have a machine)

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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:43:56 -0700, Cyril Sneer
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TOTAL CLOSURES: [...] Regents [sic] Park,


An interesting use of the word "proposed"...
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"James Farrar" wrote in message
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:43:56 -0700, Cyril Sneer
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TOTAL CLOSURES: [...] Regents [sic] Park,


An interesting use of the word "proposed"...


I don't recall using a ticket office in 20 years of travel on the tube!

Nicks

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At 11:43:56 on Fri, 13 Jul 2007 Cyril Sneer opined:-

I looked back a couple of weeks and didn't see a thread about this, so
thought I'd start one. LUL are planning to cut ticket office opening
hours (again), suggesting that its because more people are using Oyster.
Whatever you think of the reason, hey here's a list of proposed
closures.

TOTAL CLOSURES: Barkingside, Becontree, Boston Manor, Buckhurst Hill,
Cannon Street, Canons Park, Chesham, Chiswick Park, Chorleywood,
Croxley, Debden, East Putney, Fairlop, Hornchurch, Goldhawk road,
Ickenham, Latimer Road, Mansion House, Mill Hill East, Moor Park, North
Ealing, North Harrow, Northwood Hills, Park Royal, Perivale, Ravenscourt
Park, Regents Park, Royal Oak, Ruislip, Ruislip Gardens, South Ruislip,
Sudbury Hill, Temple, Totteridge & Whetstone, Upney, West Acton, West
Finchley, West Harrow, West Ruislip, Wimbledon Park, Canary Wharf
(East), Seven Sisters (B), Southwark (West), Oxford circus (Argyll
Street), Waterlook (International).

WEEKEND CLOSURES: Bow Road, Bromley-by-Bow, Chalfont & Latimer, Dagenham
East, Elm Park, Goodge Street, Hainault, Mornington Crescent, South
Harrow, Sudbury Town, Wanstead, Westbourne Park.

SUNDAY CLOSURES: Alperton, Baker Street (Met), Barbican, Dagenham
Heathway, Eastcote, Euston Square, Great Portland Street, Hillingdon,
Northwick Park, Northwood, Pinner, Rickmansworth, Ruislip Manor,
Shepherds Bush (H&C), Watford.

SATURDAY CLOSURES: Moorgate (man), Waterlook (Shell).

WEEKDAY CLOSURES: Bow Road 10am to 4pm, Dollis HIll 1.30 to 4pm, Epping
4 to 7pm, High Barnet 1.30 to 4pm, Kennington 2 to 4.30pm, Lambeth North
2.30 to 4.30 pm, Loughton 12 to 3pm, Mornington Crescent 11am to 4.30pm,
South Woodford 1.30 to 4.30pm, Tufnell Park 2 to 5pm, Warwick Avenue 2
to 5pm, Waterloo (Shell) 10am to 2pm, Woodford 1.30 to 4.30pm.

AFTERNOON CLOSURES: Cockfosters, Dagenham East, Hainault, Hillingdon,
Northwood, Pinner, Redbridge, Rickmansworth, Ruislip Manor, Snaresbrook,
South Harrow, Wanstead, Watford, Westbourne Park, Woodside Park.


Also, the new H&C Wood Lane station is planned to open without a ticket
office.
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thoss wrote:

Also, the new H&C Wood Lane station is planned to open without a
ticket office.


Will it have passive provision for one?


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On Jul 14, 1:23 pm, "John Rowland"
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thoss wrote:

Also, the new H&C Wood Lane station is planned to open without a
ticket office.


Will it have passive provision for one?


No. Just Passenger Operated Machines and a Station Supervisors Office.

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"chunky munky" wrote in message
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On Jul 14, 1:23 pm, "John Rowland"
wrote:
thoss wrote:

Also, the new H&C Wood Lane station is planned to open without a
ticket office.


Will it have passive provision for one?


No. Just Passenger Operated Machines and a Station Supervisors Office.


Does this mean that closure of the ticket office means the whole station is
unmanned? Reference to a supervisors office in Wood Lane suggests there
will still be people present on each station, simply that the ticket office
will be closed. If people are to be present are they able to provide help
with the ticket machines?


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At 17:24:09 on Sat, 14 Jul 2007 Graham Harrison opined:-


"chunky munky" wrote in message
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On Jul 14, 1:23 pm, "John Rowland"
wrote:
thoss wrote:

Also, the new H&C Wood Lane station is planned to open without a
ticket office.

Will it have passive provision for one?


No. Just Passenger Operated Machines and a Station Supervisors Office.


Does this mean that closure of the ticket office means the whole station is
unmanned? Reference to a supervisors office in Wood Lane suggests there
will still be people present on each station, simply that the ticket office
will be closed. If people are to be present are they able to provide help
with the ticket machines?

From my observations, ticket machines are never left unattended. When a
station is unmanned the gates are left open.
--
Thoss
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thoss wrote:
At 17:24:09 on Sat, 14 Jul 2007 Graham Harrison opined:-

"chunky munky" wrote in message
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On Jul 14, 1:23 pm, "John Rowland"
wrote:
thoss wrote:

Also, the new H&C Wood Lane station is planned to open without a
ticket office.
Will it have passive provision for one?
No. Just Passenger Operated Machines and a Station Supervisors Office.

Does this mean that closure of the ticket office means the whole station is
unmanned? Reference to a supervisors office in Wood Lane suggests there
will still be people present on each station, simply that the ticket office
will be closed. If people are to be present are they able to provide help
with the ticket machines?

From my observations, ticket machines are never left unattended. When a
station is unmanned the gates are left open.


I know that at least some (all?) stations must be closed if there is not
a staff member present. There is no requirement that the ticket office
be open.
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Michael Hoffman


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