"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 14:10:10 on Fri, 30 Sep 2016,
tim... remarked:
If someone has been around the world (not literally) to hundreds of
airports and is used to the system whereby fast racks lanes are
available to people who hold some upper class of travel ticket, it is
perfectly reasonable to expect that is the system with all fast track
lanes and not look for alternative methods of entry. Why would you
not?

By observing the fact that at some airports (even if not yet at the one
you are boarding from) there are places to buy fast-track tickets.

Like this (hardly invisible):

http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/7830b8caaa...22d3/a-ticket-
machine-in-an-airport-sells-fast-track-tickets-for-access-c1pcyj.jpg

and where is that?

Newcastle International Airport, Newcastle, England, United Kingdom
Date taken 29th December 2010

Never been there.

(I must have bashed the metro line at one point, but doubt I went into the
airport when I did)

I may never had walked past it (or one of its brothers)

Several airports have them,

so

and knowing that is a mixture of general knowledge

One doesn't just acquire "general" knowledge, someone has to teach it to
you. One person's generality is another person's specialism

Have you not seen the most basic questions about travel tickets asked here?

and observation.

can't observe something you have never been near

tim

On 2016-09-30 13:10:10 +0000, tim... said:

and where is that?

The staircase makes it look like Edinburgh to me, though I might be wrong.

I may never had walked past it (or one of its brothers)

If you have used Luton in the last 5 or so years you have.

Neil
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On 2016-09-30 13:34:12 +0000, Roland Perry said:

Newcastle International Airport, Newcastle, England, United Kingdom
Date taken 29th December 2010

Aha, not Edinburgh then. I didn't think Edinburgh had a paid
fast-track (as if it had I'd have used it).

Neil
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"Neil Williams" wrote in message
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On 2016-09-30 13:10:10 +0000, tim... said:

and where is that?

The staircase makes it look like Edinburgh to me, though I might be wrong.

I may never had walked past it (or one of its brothers)

If you have used Luton in the last 5 or so years you have.

So where IS the one at Luton that I am bound to have walked past, then?

Remember, Luton is currently undergoing redevelopment so parts of it are
walled off, and there are some routes from A-B that will simply be down a
corridor with wooden walls on either side with no street furniture in the
way.

tim

In message , at 15:50:54 on Fri, 30 Sep
2016, tim... remarked:

and observation.

can't observe something you have never been near

By your own admission you probably wouldn't know if you've been near
one, because you wouldn't have noticed.
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Roland Perry

In message , at 13:10:28 on Fri, 30 Sep
2016, tim... remarked:

I don't think you are lying, merely terminally unobservant.

Terminally!

South Terminal, North Terminal etc
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Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 15:50:54 on Fri, 30 Sep 2016,
tim... remarked:

and observation.

can't observe something you have never been near

By your own admission you probably wouldn't know if you've been near one,
because you wouldn't have noticed.

I didn't say that I absolutely wouldn't have noticed.

I was/still am disagreeing with your assertion that I am somehow deficient
of normal human abilities if I didn't.

My argument is that most people wont notice unless they are made aware that
it might be there (which is where we came in - discussing how the facility
is -marketed - I am disagreeing with the view that just having these pay
points at the airport is sufficient.)

I will repeat, many academic studies have shown this inability of normal
people to notice things.

Just because you think that your have superior abilities in this regard
doesn't make these studies wrong.

tim

On 29/09/2016 09:32, tim... wrote:
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When did they introduce that? It certainly isn't as obviously marketed
as at Luton.


Paid Fast Track at STN seems to have been introduced in 2011:

http://www.flypark.co.uk/blog/2011/09/08/495/
http://www.btnews.co.uk/article/3920

FWIW, it features prominently on the Stansted airport front page:
http://www.stanstedairport.com/

That's hardly a useful marketing tool IMHO.

Just how many people visit the website of the airport that they are
flying from?

1% 2%, less!


You're right, airports shouldn't have websites. Don't know why they bother.

"Mizter T" wrote in message
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On 29/09/2016 09:32, tim... wrote:
[...]
When did they introduce that? It certainly isn't as obviously marketed
as at Luton.


Paid Fast Track at STN seems to have been introduced in 2011:

http://www.flypark.co.uk/blog/2011/09/08/495/
http://www.btnews.co.uk/article/3920

FWIW, it features prominently on the Stansted airport front page:
http://www.stanstedairport.com/

That's hardly a useful marketing tool IMHO.

Just how many people visit the website of the airport that they are
flying from?

1% 2%, less!


You're right, airports shouldn't have websites. Don't know why they
bother.

I said nothing of the sort

they are obviously useful for the few (percent) that do visit them

And some of these useful visits will be by people who haven't yet decided to
fly (to check which airlines fly to their chosen destination)

But I would bet that most people who have a booked ticket from a particular
airport as part of a package, don't go anywhere near the airport web site.

tim

In message , at 20:07:30 on Sat, 1 Oct 2016,
tim... remarked:

I am disagreeing with the view that just having these pay points at the
airport is sufficient.

Fair enough, but they really are very hard to miss. (At East Midlands
Airport for example, the queue for security winds straight past them -
for the simple reason they want your £3's).
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Roland Perry