The next doomed Stansted NYC business jet
 

"Recliner" wrote in message
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A
packed business jet will be less comfortable than a commercial flight.

if that is the case I don't see the selling point

tim

The next doomed Stansted NYC business jet
 

In message , at 13:45:51 on
Wed, 18 Jan 2017, Recliner remarked:

I expect the clients will be sufficiently comfortable in the business
jet.

Not compared to the significantly cheaper first class seats on a
commercial flight.

Regular business class is sufficiently comfortable for most people.

And: "Bliss Jet will limit seat sales well below the maximum
aircraft’s capacity for extra comfort..."

--
Roland Perry

The next doomed Stansted NYC business jet
 

In message , at 13:50:11 on Wed, 18 Jan
2017, tim... remarked:
A
packed business jet will be less comfortable than a commercial flight.

if that is the case I don't see the selling point

It's only been mentioned several times (convenience to/from/at the
airport).
--
Roland Perry

The next doomed Stansted NYC business jet
 

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 14:05:41 +0000
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 13:50:11 on Wed, 18 Jan
2017, tim... remarked:
A
packed business jet will be less comfortable than a commercial flight.

if that is the case I don't see the selling point

It's only been mentioned several times (convenience to/from/at the
airport).

737s are bad enough. I can't imagine spending 8 hours bouncing across the
atlantic in something not much bigger than a minibus, comfortable seats or not.

--
Spud

The next doomed Stansted NYC business jet
 

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 13:45:51 on
Wed, 18 Jan 2017, Recliner remarked:

I expect the clients will be sufficiently comfortable in the business
jet.

Not compared to the significantly cheaper first class seats on a
commercial flight.

Regular business class is sufficiently comfortable for most people.

Yes, and a lot cheaper, with a choice of dozens of flights a day on the
NYC-LON route. Bliss will have just one flight a week, so most pax will
need to use another airline for one leg of a return trip. They might as
well use scheduled airlines for both legs, as they will need to do for any
trips that don't fit with Bliss's once a week service. And most corporate
execs will work for companies that have arrangements with preferred
airlines.

I'd have thought Bliss would do better to aim at a less well-served route.


And: "Bliss Jet will limit seat sales well below the maximum
aircraft’s capacity for extra comfort..."

They must have be reacting to feedback, but that makes the business model
trickier still.

The next doomed Stansted NYC business jet
 

In message , at 15:04:59 on Wed, 18 Jan
2017, d remarked:

737s are bad enough. I can't imagine spending 8 hours bouncing across the
atlantic in something not much bigger than a minibus, comfortable seats or not.

Perhaps they fly around the turbulence?
--
Roland Perry

The next doomed Stansted NYC business jet
 

Theo wrote:
John Levine wrote:
In article
you
write:
https://50skyshades.com/news/business-aviation/bliss-jet-to-launch-laguardia-to-london-private-jet-service-in-january

This looks like the next dead cert failure.

This looks like vapourware. It says the New York end of the flights
will be at the Marine Air Terminal at LaGuardia airport, correctly
noting that it's considerably closer to midtown Manhattan than either
JFK or Newark.

They also seem to be confused, advertising Westchester-Biggin Hill in June.
http://www.travelweekly.co.uk/articl...w-york-service

Does Westchester have customs and immigration?

Oh sorry, Westchester and Stansted:
http://media.wix.com/ugd/22fe6d_aa60...4d8325ba06.pdf

Ooops, I mean La Guardia and Stansted:
http://www.blissjet.com/where-we-fly

Third time lucky?

(links all from the Blissjet website)

I suppose they're struggling to find an exec jet field that will welcome
them. In principle, they could use more than one such airport if there's
the demand.

The next doomed Stansted NYC business jet
 

In message
-septe
mber.org, at 15:13:17 on Wed, 18 Jan 2017, Recliner
remarked:
I expect the clients will be sufficiently comfortable in the business
jet.

Not compared to the significantly cheaper first class seats on a
commercial flight.

Regular business class is sufficiently comfortable for most people.

Yes, and a lot cheaper, with a choice of dozens of flights a day on the
NYC-LON route. Bliss will have just one flight a week, so most pax will
need to use another airline for one leg of a return trip. They might as
well use scheduled airlines for both legs, as they will need to do for any
trips that don't fit with Bliss's once a week service. And most corporate
execs will work for companies that have arrangements with preferred
airlines.

I'd have thought Bliss would do better to aim at a less well-served route.

And: "Bliss Jet will limit seat sales well below the maximum
aircraft’s capacity for extra comfort..."

They must have be reacting to feedback, but that makes the business model
trickier still.

In both cases, not if they are already operating the flight for a few
specific weekly commuters, and want to fill a few empty seats (maybe
even giving a discount to the regulars).
--
Roland Perry

The next doomed Stansted NYC business jet
 

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 15:04:59 on Wed, 18 Jan
2017, d remarked:

737s are bad enough. I can't imagine spending 8 hours bouncing across the
atlantic in something not much bigger than a minibus, comfortable seats or not.

Perhaps they fly around the turbulence?

Some business jets fly higher and faster than airliners.

The next doomed Stansted NYC business jet
 

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 15:43:14 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 15:04:59 on Wed, 18 Jan
2017, d remarked:

737s are bad enough. I can't imagine spending 8 hours bouncing across the
atlantic in something not much bigger than a minibus, comfortable seats or
not.

Perhaps they fly around the turbulence?

Some business jets fly higher and faster than airliners.

Some storm clouds go up to 60K feet. The only civil aircraft that could go
over them would be concorde.

--
Spud