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Neil Williams · April 28th 17, 10:53 AM posted to uk.transport.london

On 2017-04-28 09:43:59 +0000, d said:

Even so, I still can't figure out why newcastle was so blessed when other
more deserving cities were not. God knows, Birmingham really needs a proper
underground system. If it was a city anywhere in northern or eastern europe
it would have public transport coming out of its ears.

Yeah, Brum does seem to have been left out, largely I guess because of
the existence of the Cross ****ty and New St tunnel.

Liverpool of course got Merseyrail, which had it been built even 5
years later I think wouldn't have been a TOC. It's just that at the
time BR was in favour - fast forward a couple of years and it no longer
was.

Neil
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[email protected] · April 28th 17, 12:49 PM posted to uk.transport.london

In article ,
(Neil Williams) wrote:

On 2017-04-28 09:43:59 +0000, d said:

Even so, I still can't figure out why newcastle was so blessed when
other more deserving cities were not. God knows, Birmingham really needs
a proper underground system. If it was a city anywhere in northern or
eastern europe it would have public transport coming out of its ears.

Yeah, Brum does seem to have been left out, largely I guess because
of the existence of the Cross ****ty and New St tunnel.

Liverpool of course got Merseyrail, which had it been built even 5 years
later I think wouldn't have been a TOC. It's just that at the time BR
was in favour - fast forward a couple of years and it no longer was.

Birmingham's City fathers thought the answer to everything was more motor
cars then. They made a lot of cars in Brum then.

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[email protected] · April 28th 17, 04:37 PM posted to uk.transport.london

On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 11:53:10 +0100
Neil Williams wrote:
On 2017-04-28 09:43:59 +0000, d said:

Even so, I still can't figure out why newcastle was so blessed when other
more deserving cities were not. God knows, Birmingham really needs a proper
underground system. If it was a city anywhere in northern or eastern europe
it would have public transport coming out of its ears.

Yeah, Brum does seem to have been left out, largely I guess because of
the existence of the Cross ****ty and New St tunnel.

Liverpool of course got Merseyrail, which had it been built even 5

Liverpool had the Liverpool Overhead Railway back in the day. Which in the
true British tradition of 20/20 foresight was torn down for as far as I can
discern no particularly good reason other than no one wanted to cough up for
maintenance and repairs.

years later I think wouldn't have been a TOC. It's just that at the
time BR was in favour - fast forward a couple of years and it no longer
was.

Merseyrail like the drayton park - moorgate line in london rather eludes
definition. Is it a metro, an S Bahn or just commuter rail that happens to
have some underground stations?

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Neil Williams · April 28th 17, 04:53 PM posted to uk.transport.london

On 2017-04-28 16:37:11 +0000, d said:

Merseyrail like the drayton park - moorgate line in london rather eludes
definition. Is it a metro, an S Bahn or just commuter rail that happens to
have some underground stations?

Drayton Park to Moorgate is probably an S-Bahn too. Regular interval?
Mostly all stations services?

As for Merseyrail it is an absolute textbook S-Bahn, very similar
indeed to that in Hamburg. Indeed, in some ways Hamburg's railway
geography does mirror Liverpool's a bit - largely because the whole
city does in its layout, being a port city tucked into a similarly
shaped corner of land.

Neil
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[email protected] · April 29th 17, 11:56 AM posted to uk.transport.london

On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 22:53:35 +0100
wrote:
practically nothing remaining it would a new railway that happens to
be going in the same direction,this one is quite recent
http://independent-liverpool.co.uk/b...erpools-overhe
d-railway-set-to-return/

Oh dear, a monorail. Next!

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