e27002 aurora wrote:

Of greater concern is the longitudinal hard seating. Within my memory
commuters from Twyford had compartment stock and conveniences on
board. Progress NOT.



Within rather more recent memory, Twyford was served by noisy rattly smelly
and slow 1st Gen DMMUs, against which 345s will surely be an improvement.

Also, presumably Telford will still be served by some gWr electrostar
services?


Anna Noyd-Dryver

On 17/07/2017 16:38, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
e27002 aurora wrote:

Of greater concern is the longitudinal hard seating. Within my memory
commuters from Twyford had compartment stock and conveniences on
board. Progress NOT.



Within rather more recent memory, Twyford was served by noisy rattly smelly
and slow 1st Gen DMMUs, against which 345s will surely be an improvement.

Also, presumably Telford will still be served by some gWr electrostar
services?


Anna Noyd-Dryver

Given to slow rate of progress for the many 1st gen DMUs a toilet was
essential.
I think the poster was referring to the way some trains were 'flighted'
in that some Reading to PAD trains with Mk1 carriages stopped only at
Twyford and then ran non stop with the next from Reading stopping at
only Maidenhead.

Jim Chisholm wrote:
On 17/07/2017 16:38, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
e27002 aurora wrote:

Of greater concern is the longitudinal hard seating. Within my memory
commuters from Twyford had compartment stock and conveniences on
board. Progress NOT.



Within rather more recent memory, Twyford was served by noisy rattly smelly
and slow 1st Gen DMMUs, against which 345s will surely be an improvement.

Also, presumably Telford will still be served by some gWr electrostar
services?


Meaning Twyford, obviously!


Given to slow rate of progress for the many 1st gen DMUs a toilet was
essential.
I think the poster was referring to the way some trains were 'flighted'
in that some Reading to PAD trains with Mk1 carriages stopped only at
Twyford and then ran non stop with the next from Reading stopping at
only Maidenhead.


That still occurs, to a certain extent, particularly in the down direction
evening peak, but there are some up peak trains specifically to ease the
lot of Twyford/Maidenhead commuters.


Anna Noyd-Dryver

I travelled on one of the new Elizabeth Line stock yesterday.
The seats are hard, uncomfortable and unpleasant; every bit
as bad as those on the 700 series used by Thameslink. Why
do TOCs specify hard seats? My journey was between Stratford
and Liverpool Street. I feel sorry for anyone coming in from
Shenfield or Maidenhead.

On a more positive note, I do admire the interior layout of these
trains: spacious and offering a choice of seating arrangement.

Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
e27002 aurora wrote:

Of greater concern is the longitudinal hard seating. Within my memory
commuters from Twyford had compartment stock and conveniences on
board. Progress NOT.



Within rather more recent memory, Twyford was served by noisy rattly smelly
and slow 1st Gen DMMUs, against which 345s will surely be an improvement.

Also, presumably Telford will still be served by some gWr electrostar
services?


Twyford, #obvs.

Damn autocucumber again!


Andy Hyde-Rover