On Thu, 3 Aug 2017 11:38:16 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message , at 08:36:44 on Thu, 3 Aug
2017, d remarked:

As an aside, how do trains on the ECML get south of the river, where's the link
to the current thameslink route?

Slaps forehead

Indeed!


http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/trai...08/03/advanced

I notice it's shown as a 365, but presumably it's more likely to be a
class 700 in reality?

On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 12:01:28 +0100
Recliner wrote:
On Thu, 3 Aug 2017 11:38:16 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message , at 08:36:44 on Thu, 3 Aug
2017, d remarked:

As an aside, how do trains on the ECML get south of the river, where's the
link
to the current thameslink route?

Slaps forehead

Indeed!

Indeed what? Is knowing the precise junction layouts of the various lines
a prerequsite of being able to discuss this?

--
Spud

On Thu, 3 Aug 2017 11:14:48 +0000 (UTC), d wrote:

On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 12:01:28 +0100
Recliner wrote:
On Thu, 3 Aug 2017 11:38:16 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message , at 08:36:44 on Thu, 3 Aug
2017, d remarked:

As an aside, how do trains on the ECML get south of the river, where's the
link
to the current thameslink route?

Slaps forehead

Indeed!

Indeed what? Is knowing the precise junction layouts of the various lines
a prerequsite of being able to discuss this?

I think we all assumed anyone posting here as often as you do, pouring
scorn on all and sundry, might have at least the most basic knowledge
of one of the biggest rail projects in London, which has been going on
for more than two decades. You often express strong opinions on the
Thameslink project, so it was reasonable for us to assume you might
know at least a tiny bit about what you're criticising.

So, no, we didn't expect you to "know the precise junction layouts of
the various lines," but to at least know the basics of the huge
project, including where the Thameslink and ECML routes connect.

On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 12:24:06 +0100
Recliner wrote:
On Thu, 3 Aug 2017 11:14:48 +0000 (UTC), d wrote:

On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 12:01:28 +0100
Recliner wrote:
On Thu, 3 Aug 2017 11:38:16 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message , at 08:36:44 on Thu, 3 Aug
2017, d remarked:

As an aside, how do trains on the ECML get south of the river, where's the
link
to the current thameslink route?

Slaps forehead

Indeed!

Indeed what? Is knowing the precise junction layouts of the various lines
a prerequsite of being able to discuss this?

I think we all assumed anyone posting here as often as you do, pouring
scorn on all and sundry, might have at least the most basic knowledge
of one of the biggest rail projects in London, which has been going on

Well there are currently only 3 to speak of anyway. And as I haven't been
keeping up on the thameslink project since frankly it doesn't interest
me much I didn't even realise they'd bored any new tunnels. If its anything
like the "improved" St Pancras station which turned a 100m walk to the tube
into 500m one because they couldn't figure out how to extend platforms into
a tunnel (though oddly they managed to build an entire new station in a
pre-existing tunnel, go figure) then I will continue to pay little attention
to it unless when it starts it ****s up the moorgate line even more.

for more than two decades. You often express strong opinions on the
Thameslink project, so it was reasonable for us to assume you might
know at least a tiny bit about what you're criticising.

I never criticised this project. I've criticised thameslink when I used it
occasionally back in the day which as a paying passenger I'm entitled to do.
So what?

So, no, we didn't expect you to "know the precise junction layouts of
the various lines," but to at least know the basics of the huge
project, including where the Thameslink and ECML routes connect.

1km of new tunnel is hardly "huge". Crossrail is huge, this is an upgrade.

As an aside I can see the chord from blackfriars to london bridge from my
office. They've been attempting to re-lay about 200m of track for over a month
now and its still not even ballasted properly or had the 3rd rail reinstated.
No wonder this project has taken 2 decades if thats the speed they work at.

--
Spud
been working on re-

In message , at 13:09:18 on Thu, 3 Aug
2017, d remarked:

In message , at 08:36:44 on Thu, 3 Aug
2017, d remarked:

As an aside, how do trains on the ECML get south of the river, where's the
link
to the current thameslink route?

Slaps forehead

Indeed!

Indeed what? Is knowing the precise junction layouts of the various lines
a prerequsite of being able to discuss this?

I think we all assumed anyone posting here as often as you do, pouring
scorn on all and sundry, might have at least the most basic knowledge
of one of the biggest rail projects in London, which has been going on

Well there are currently only 3 to speak of anyway. And as I haven't been
keeping up on the thameslink project since frankly it doesn't interest
me much I didn't even realise they'd bored any new tunnels.

FSVO new; I think they must be ten years old by now. And iirc much was
probably cut and cover.

--
Roland Perry

In message , at 11:14:48 on Thu, 3 Aug
2017, d remarked:

As an aside, how do trains on the ECML get south of the river, where's the
link
to the current thameslink route?

Slaps forehead

Indeed!

Indeed what? Is knowing the precise junction layouts of the various lines
a prerequsite of being able to discuss this?

The link has been discussed since before they built SPILL. Do keep up!
--
Roland Perry

In article , d () wrote:

On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 12:01:28 +0100
Recliner wrote:
On Thu, 3 Aug 2017 11:38:16 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message , at 08:36:44 on Thu, 3 Aug
2017, d remarked:

As an aside, how do trains on the ECML get south of the river, where's
the link to the current thameslink route?

Slaps forehead

Indeed!

Indeed what? Is knowing the precise junction layouts of the various lines
a prerequsite of being able to discuss this?

No, but it would help you not look like a total prat.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 20:29:21 -0500
wrote:
In article , d () wrote:

On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 12:01:28 +0100
Recliner wrote:
On Thu, 3 Aug 2017 11:38:16 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message , at 08:36:44 on Thu, 3 Aug
2017, d remarked:

As an aside, how do trains on the ECML get south of the river, where's
the link to the current thameslink route?

Slaps forehead

Indeed!

Indeed what? Is knowing the precise junction layouts of the various lines
a prerequsite of being able to discuss this?

No, but it would help you not look like a total prat.

When I start wearing an anorak and hanging around at the end of platforms
carrying a thermos flask and notebook I might give a ****. Until then...

--
Spud

In message , at 09:48:34 on Fri, 4 Aug
2017, d remarked:

Indeed what? Is knowing the precise junction layouts of the various lines
a prerequsite of being able to discuss this?

No, but it would help you not look like a total prat.

When I start wearing an anorak and hanging around at the end of platforms
carrying a thermos flask and notebook I might give a ****. Until then...

....we will ignore everything you say, as you've now admitted it's
founded upon ignorance.
--
Roland Perry

On Fri, 4 Aug 2017 12:25:04 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 09:48:34 on Fri, 4 Aug
2017, d remarked:

Indeed what? Is knowing the precise junction layouts of the various lines
a prerequsite of being able to discuss this?

No, but it would help you not look like a total prat.

When I start wearing an anorak and hanging around at the end of platforms
carrying a thermos flask and notebook I might give a ****. Until then...

....we will ignore everything you say, as you've now admitted it's
founded upon ignorance.

Feel free to point out where I said anything of the sort. In the meantime I'll
continue to ignore most of what you say as I've been doing for quite a while
as it happens.

--
Spud