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On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 02:14:56PM +0100, Roland Perry wrote:
Network cards are strictly "after 10am", whereas the Senior Railcard is "off-peak {may vary locally}"[1], and the F&F/TTG/Disabled Railcard is "After 9.30am". There are no restrictions on when the discount for a Disabled railcard applies. -- David Cantrell | Enforcer, South London Linguistic Massive Computer Science is about lofty design goals and careful algorithmic optimisation. Sysadminning is about cleaning up the resulting mess. |
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In message , at 14:32:34
on Wed, 30 Aug 2017, David Cantrell remarked: Network cards are strictly "after 10am", whereas the Senior Railcard is "off-peak {may vary locally}"[1], and the F&F/TTG/Disabled Railcard is "After 9.30am". There are no restrictions on when the discount for a Disabled railcard applies. If true, it makes it even stranger that TfL are refusing to differentiate between different railcards when applying discounts. -- Roland Perry |
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On 30/08/2017 20:34, wrote:
In article , (Roland Perry) wrote: In message , at 14:32:34 on Wed, 30 Aug 2017, David Cantrell remarked: Network cards are strictly "after 10am", whereas the Senior Railcard is "off-peak {may vary locally}"[1], and the F&F/TTG/Disabled Railcard is "After 9.30am". There are no restrictions on when the discount for a Disabled railcard applies. If true, it makes it even stranger that TfL are refusing to differentiate between different railcards when applying discounts. We are assuming that the railcard number, which is recorded against the card, doesn't make the railcard type clear. But isn't the key thing about the Oyster card system is that it is somewhat disconnected - ie it doesn't rely on a backend query to be able to do anything? |
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In article , (Someone
Somewhere) wrote: On 30/08/2017 20:34, wrote: In article , (Roland Perry) wrote: In message , at 14:32:34 on Wed, 30 Aug 2017, David Cantrell remarked: Network cards are strictly "after 10am", whereas the Senior Railcard is "off-peak {may vary locally}"[1], and the F&F/TTG/Disabled Railcard is "After 9.30am". There are no restrictions on when the discount for a Disabled railcard applies. If true, it makes it even stranger that TfL are refusing to differentiate between different railcards when applying discounts. We are assuming that the railcard number, which is recorded against the card, doesn't make the railcard type clear. But isn't the key thing about the Oyster card system is that it is somewhat disconnected - ie it doesn't rely on a backend query to be able to do anything? The number is recorded on the Oyster card. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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On 25/08/17 14:14, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 13:23:53 on Fri, 25 Aug 2017, Richard remarked: [Choice of Railcards on SWR] This is an ongoing trend. When I had TfL u my senior card onto my Oyster recently, the only option the hilariously mardy and untrained roving chappie had to pick was "National Rail Cards". He insisted they were all treated as one now when it came to validity (mainly time of day, I suppose). I very much doubt that! Are the discounts only on Oyster off-peak fares? I think they would be all the same in that case. Network cards are strictly "after 10am", whereas the Senior Railcard is "off-peak {may vary locally}"[1], and the F&F/TTG/Disabled Railcard is "After 9.30am". With the exception that the Senior Railcard has identical morning restrictions as the Network one for journeys wholly within the Network area. Even TfL admits: "The savings are slightly different for each card." https://tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payment...discounts-and- concessions/railcards But how do they know, if all railcards are coded the same?? [1] For TfL fares their blanket off-peak is *depart* after 9.30, but for National Rail the senior off-peak is *arrive* after 10am. |
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SWT & NR - from deep alliance to deep something else
In message , at 13:12:13 on Thu, 28
Sep 2017, Martin Coffee remarked: On 25/08/17 14:14, Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 13:23:53 on Fri, 25 Aug 2017, Richard remarked: [Choice of Railcards on SWR] This is an ongoing trend. When I had TfL u my senior card onto my Oyster recently, the only option the hilariously mardy and untrained roving chappie had to pick was "National Rail Cards". He insisted they were all treated as one now when it came to validity (mainly time of day, I suppose). I very much doubt that! Are the discounts only on Oyster off-peak fares? I think they would be all the same in that case. Network cards are strictly "after 10am", whereas the Senior Railcard is "off-peak {may vary locally}"[1], and the F&F/TTG/Disabled Railcard is "After 9.30am". With the exception that the Senior Railcard has identical morning restrictions as the Network one for journeys wholly within the Network area. No!!! That's precisely the point I was making. For example, from where I live (within the NSE area) the first trains I can use a Senior Card: depart 08:58, arr London 10:13 (1st opportunity to arrive after 10am) Network Card: depart 10:07, arr London 11:32 (1st opportunity to depart after 10am) in practice, one would get the next, and faster, train: depart 10:25, arr London 11:35. The Senior card has the same restriction as an Off-peak ticket, whereas the Network Card is so restricted as to be useless for doing anything in London before noon. Even TfL admits: "The savings are slightly different for each card." https://tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payment...discounts-and- concessions/railcards But how do they know, if all railcards are coded the same?? [1] For TfL fares their blanket off-peak is *depart* after 9.30, but for National Rail the senior off-peak is *arrive* after 10am. -- Roland Perry |
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